"Make sure anytime you film you have a high speed SD card in the camera. In the controller change it to log, or if you are Filming with a lot of moving angles change to 1080 / 120fps. 4k is for slow pan or forward moves since it's only 30fps. Also theres have to be a settings for the speed of pan and yaw. Putting it on the slowest will increase the fps quality overall."


This is a text i just received from a friend that has his own photo and video company. Do you agree with all of his statements?

I ask because ive been shooting everything in 4k, but might change now....

It all seems quite feasible, but just remember, this is also just an opinion.  There are no facts when discussing what looks good & what doesn't as it's all very subjective.  It depends what effect you're after & what you like.  Don't blindly follow someone else's ideas of what works & stick to it religiously because an "expert" said.

Try it out for yourself & see what happens.  See if you can appreciate the differences.  If you can, then you can apply each setting to your own work.  It's a mistake to take someone else's settings & apply them to everything you do.

nigelw Posted at 2016-5-12 04:56
It all seems quite feasible, but just remember, this is also just an opinion.  There are no facts wh ...

Totally agree, do your own experiments and see. I personally shoot in 1080 as it suffices for my needs even though I have p3p!

I tried 2.7k today.....it recorded very studdery or choppy.........then it stopped recording only 500 feet away.......I switched to 1080-30fps (which I normally shot) and all was nice and smooth.
Maybe it's the SD card that it came w/ cant record fast enough I dunno.... I do have a Samsung UHS-1  class 10 I should try. it's still in the package LOL.

Ok why not....i'll try it after dinner LOL.

Otto

This doesn't concur with my experience.  I prefer to shoot at 24 fps as IMO you get better motion blur and therefore smoother looking video.  I would only use a higher frame rate to video something that was moving very quickly. I also shoot at 2.7k or 4k rather than 1080 because even if I am outputting at 1080 it gives scope to crop or more importantly straighten the footage without loosing quality. Of course if you are one of the lucky few that doesn't have a wonky gimbal this doesn't matter as much.  Shooting at 4k also future proofs your footage to some extent.

u shoot 2.7k at 24fps?

bfd300 Posted at 2016-5-11 23:23
u shoot 2.7k at 24fps?

yes - why not.......

birdingbilly Posted at 2016-5-11 23:13
Shooting at 4k also future proofs your footage to some extent.

This is one of my big concerns.  1080p will be a small old format before long.

I pretty much agree with what he is saying, except the 1080p 120fps bit. That mode uses a cropped portion of the sensor and does not produce very good images.

Only reason I ask it cuz I cant shoot in 2/7K video is choppy or studders   I did a few tests flights tonight......2.7k w/ a diff SD card .same thing... I'll go back to 1080 30 fps.........works and looks great.

With the speed technology changes happen at,  it will not be long until 4k goes the way of the 8 track tape ,  never mind 1080p.  I hear tell of 8 k and higher already.

I love the rich color and sharp definition in my 4K videos, and would never willingly step down...
I guess it might depend on the purpose of your video. But I truly enjoy seeing the minute details.

RedHotPoker

I'm sure I would love to see my video in 2.7k if it recorded smooth but for whatever reason it does not........I'm happy w/ 1080.

bfd300 Posted at 2016-5-12 02:48
I'm sure I would love to see my video in 2.7k if it recorded smooth but for whatever reason it does  ...

You're sure it's not your playback device causing the choppy video?  Try exporting 2.7k to 1080p & see if that works.

Most likely what Nigelw said. It can also be related to your preferred player. If you don't use it yet, try VLC. It seems to work well for a lot of people.
I agree that 4k is the best way to (currently) futureproof your video. That said, if you want to edit 4k you need a pretty beefy PC. So for most people the best solution is to shoot 4K, convert it to lower (again, as said) and then edit it. Then, when you get/build a 4k editing PC in the future you can still use the original 4k footage (assuming you've stored that of course ;) )

One thing that I have found is if you slow down the tilt of  the camera in the options you will only have that speed until you go back and change it however I have my tilt set to fast with an ease at the end because the controller for tilt on the remote is proportional so if I move the control wheel fast it tilts fast but if I move it slow it moves slow, having it st this way gives me the best of both worlds, I don't have to go into the settings each time I want to change it. This works for me, give it a go. I hope this helps.

Kneepuck Posted at 2016-5-11 21:26
With the speed technology changes happen at,  it will not be long until 4k goes the way of the 8 tra ...

There is 16K now

Check Toms Tech Time on Youtube or his website. He has a step by step instruction and explanation of each setting.

FatedFilmsNC Posted at 2016-5-12 11:34
There is 16K now

Red is already shooting 6 and 8k. Can't be too long till the next step. Personally I hope it stays away a while. I'm getting fed up with PC upgrading all the time just to be able to edit

nigelw Posted at 2016-5-11 15:56
It all seems quite feasible, but just remember, this is also just an opinion.  There are no facts wh ...

This is great advice.

FatedFilmsNC Posted at 2016-5-12 04:34
There is 16K now

I'm going to need a bigger NAS.

bfd300 Posted at 2016-5-12 00:08
I tried 2.7k today.....it recorded very studdery or choppy.........then it stopped recording only 50 ...

I have also that problem. 2.7k is studdery or choppy, I have P3A. I'm using panasonic SD card which came with P3. My computer is not problem, because it plays other 4k video with no problem. Dont know what problem is or how could if fix this?

Nejkoy Posted at 2016-5-12 17:48
I have also that problem. 2.7k is studdery or choppy, I have P3A. I'm using panasonic SD card whic ...

Maybe a bad SD card?  Try a different one just to rule it out.

Coming from an amateur and an FC40,
I use 1080
Easier for me to upload videos and the quality is amazing, to me.
Still learning the settings and using filters  

If you are experiencing choppy or glitchy recordings odds are that your SD card isn't up to the task. Find a decent SD card (Lexar, Sandisk Extreme) and make sure its Class 10. Thats a ton of data to write to a card, and if its slow it will drop frames. Thats why your 1080p looks good, but not your 2.7k.

As for the frame rates, 120fps for stuff you want to slow down in post, 24fps for smoother film look, or shoot 60fps for general and transcode before editing.

epatzer@boulder Posted at 2016-5-13 13:25
If you are experiencing choppy or glitchy recordings odds are that your SD card isn't up to the task ...

' Thats a ton of data to write to a card, and if its slow it will drop frames.'

The video processing system in the Phantom does not drop frames, if it cannot keep up the record process it simply stops recording. The problem is most like what the poster is watching the material on, in other words a computer that is not able to handle high resolution material.

epatzer@boulder Posted at 2016-5-13 05:25
If you are experiencing choppy or glitchy recordings odds are that your SD card isn't up to the task ...

Will try to get better SD card and see if this is a problem.

Geebax Posted at 2016-5-13 07:16
' Thats a ton of data to write to a card, and if its slow it will drop frames.'

The video processi ...

Sometimes my phantom does stop recording on his own. My hardware is not the problem. Other 4K movies plays just fine.

My day job is in TV post production, and I don't think we'll see the death of 1080 very soon. If you're in the movie business, then that's a different beast altogether, and you wouldn't be using a phantom or an inspire to shoot aerial footage anyway. Having said that, we're seeing a lot of people originate in 4k (especially wildlife shooters) and we get a lot of 4k aerials from inspires and phantoms - even if the programmes are finished in HD. So if you're going to be selling your footage, then I would shoot in 4k - there's definitely a groundswell of opinion that this 'future proofs' your footage.

mrbill Posted at 2016-5-13 10:42
My day job is in TV post production, and I don't think we'll see the death of 1080 very soon. If you ...

I agree 1080 won't go away for ages, but with computer monitors getting higher & higher resolutions (iMac 4K & 5K) it won't fill the screen so well in comparison.  That & some people seem to enjoy filling there living room with a massive TV they can't sit far enough back from to watch!

I have a Samsung 50 inch 4K smart TV.   It has USB inputs and I have a card reader plugged into one of them.  When I finish a flight, I can just plug the MicroSD card into the reader and view my footage directly on the TV.

It's truly breathtaking...  Even sitting a few feet from the screen, the detail is amazing.   

On the other hand, I don't see much difference between 1080P and 4K on my 24 inch Samsung computer monitor with the computer's video resolution set to 1920x1200 pixels.   It seems to me that the larger formats need larger screens to look better.   

What about formatting the SD card? I have a scandisc extreme 64 gig. Can I use it out of the box or does it require formatting? My first few vids are choppy. Recorded in 4K and viewed with VLC. Havn't bought N Dfilters yet but plan to.  PC is a few years old. I'll try 1080p when it stops raining.