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Is there not a ATTI mode like on the P3 ? I know it goes into it if gps is lost but not what I'm looking for .
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That's a bit of a surprise, are dji going to guarantee gps signal?
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Fulgerite Posted at 2016-10-7 16:15
Read the manual:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bur8gn147jbrczv/Mavic-Pro-User-Manual-2016-09.pdf?dl=0

So atti will now be automatic that makes a lot of sense, how did you manage to get full manual.
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hallmark007 Posted at 2016-10-8 00:03
So atti will now be automatic that makes a lot of sense, how did you manage to get full manual.

The manual is not completed, but yes there is no manually selecting ATTI mode. The Mavic will go into ATTI automatically when GPS signal is lost.
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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-10-7 17:16
The manual is not completed, but yes there is no manually selecting ATTI mode. The Mavic will go i ...

Thanks DJI Ken
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No problem at all.
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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-10-7 17:16
The manual is not completed, but yes there is no manually selecting ATTI mode. The Mavic will go i ...

Hmm,

I have a feeling this might upset a few people who prefer to fly in Atti to get smoother shots and also no opportunity to practice Atti mode flying in case of GPS loss.

Any chance the mode selection could be added into the app somewhere?
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helidan Posted at 2016-10-8 02:09
Hmm,

I have a feeling this might upset a few people who prefer to fly in Atti to get smoother sho ...

There is no manual ATTI mode, so unfortunately you cannot practice on the Mavic.
I'd suggest everyone to purchase the DJI Care Refresh in case of an accident.
It really is an offering. $99 upfront, $79 for first replacement and $129 for the 2nd.
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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-10-7 19:22
There is no manual ATTI mode, so unfortunately you cannot practice on the Mavic.
I'd suggest ever ...

I'd suggest everyone to purchase the DJI Care Refresh in case of an accident.
It really is an offering. $99 upfront, $79 for first replacement and $129 for the 2nd.


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Does that cover 'flyaways' as well Ken ?
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Delta Nine Posted at 2016-10-8 02:41
I'd suggest everyone to purchase the DJI Care Refresh in case of an accident.
It really is an offe ...

99.9 % of flyaways have been user induced for some reason or another.
Read #1 in the terms of service.
http://www.dji.com/service/djicare-refresh/info#s2
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helidan Posted at 2016-10-7 19:09
Hmm,

I have a feeling this might upset a few people who prefer to fly in Atti to get smoother sho ...

Practice on your P4 another good reason for keeping P4
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hallmark007 Posted at 2016-10-8 03:05
Practice on your P4 another good reason for keeping P4

For sure, I love my P4 and will not sell it.
For the tens of thousands of brand new users who've preodered and have never flown a drone before, they will never know what manual ATTI ever was and hopefully will never lose GPS. Or at least be within VPS range so the enhanced system will hold their position
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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-10-7 16:36
For sure, I love my P4 and will not sell it.
For the tens of thousands of brand new users who've p ...

like me. i have nary a clue what ATTI is. Actually I thought the post said "ATT" like the cell company.. :p

sometimes ignorance is bliss...
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marctronixx Posted at 2016-10-8 05:29
like me. i have nary a clue what ATTI is. Actually I thought the post said "ATT" like the cell com ...

Than you won't miss it
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Seem a bit of tinfoil may degrade GPS enough for ATTI to kick in, not sure. I fly my P3P in ATTI a lot, just because I like manual flying, here is hoping a ATTI engauged notice will pop up when GPS is lost. I would think flying indoors without GPS would require ATTI mode. Be interesting to test once I get my Mavic. I am keeping my P3P in any case, the Mavic will be my traveling companion on motorcycle trips.
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F6B-Rider Posted at 2016-10-8 06:15
Seem a bit of tinfoil may degrade GPS enough for ATTI to kick in, not sure. I fly my P3P in ATTI a l ...

DJI does not recommend doing anything like this, and if there is a crash caused by it the flight data recorder records way more then you know and the repair cost of your crashed aircraft will be up to you.
Things like this happen all the time and then the customer gets upset because the flight data analysis shows that something has been tampered with and it will not be covered under warranty.
So is the risk of a possible crash worth it, totally up to you.
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So DJI removed the first counter-measure we had in case of erratic behaviour of the drone : this is a revolution !
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It's pointless to manual switch between  GPS and atti mode anyway because if you lose GPS that is atti mode.
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Not pointless at all when the quad decides to do something wrong while in GPS.
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R&L Aerial  Posted at 2016-10-8 13:44
It's pointless to manual switch between  GPS and atti mode anyway because if you lose GPS that is at ...

Will the pilot know what to do when faced with no gps ?
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hallmark007 Posted at 2016-10-8 09:18
Will the pilot know what to do when faced with no gps ?

He or she should not be calling themselves a uav pilot unless they know what happens when GPS is lost, the drone still hovers and flys normally it just drifts. I'm sure there will be some type of notification when GPS is lost.
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F6B-Rider Posted at 2016-10-7 18:15
Seem a bit of tinfoil may degrade GPS enough for ATTI to kick in, not sure. I fly my P3P in ATTI a l ...

Copper foil works better
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R&L Aerial  Posted at 2016-10-8 14:36
He or she should not be calling themselves a uav pilot unless they know what happens when GPS is l ...

What do you think they should call themselves, have you got another word for a person in charge of UAV ?
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hallmark007 Posted at 2016-10-8 09:42
What do you think they should call themselves, have you got another word for a person in charge of ...

The word novice comes to mind?
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R&L Aerial  Posted at 2016-10-8 17:02
The word novice comes to mind?


Think you missed the point here there is know way of practicing atti mode on Mavic, to progress from Novice to pilot this would be considered good practice, but maybe you think this will be instinctive. For me I'm glad I time spent practicing atti with my P4.
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Is that going to be (ever) available in Malaysia or only for Americans in America?
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R&L Aerial  Posted at 2016-10-8 13:44
It's pointless to manual switch between  GPS and atti mode anyway because if you lose GPS that is at ...

Very wrong.
If you have a poorly calibrated compass or a compass or GPS anomaly, switching to P-Atti mode will prevent TBE and ultimately loosing control of the aircraft altogether.

To not have this option is a huge oversight by DJI and another step towards a totally Nanny aircraft.
The problem is, without being able to practice atti flying and become proficient and confident operating in that mode means many will be unprepared and I'll equipped to deal with it when it happens to them.
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bigglyguy Posted at 2016-10-9 00:43
Is that going to be (ever) available in Malaysia or only for Americans in America?

If it's on the website available to purchase in your location then it's available.
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Tharg (from the Posted at 2016-10-8 13:15
Very wrong.
If you have a poorly calibrated compass or a compass or GPS anomaly, switching to P-At ...

Yes I geuss I didn't fully understand what we were discussing here, the reason I fly well in atti mode is because until mavic we had that option. Fortunately the gps signal can be block with a small piece of copper foil.
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"Sorry, the product is not yet available in your country or region."

So that's a no then.
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So...  The preview manual I was able to read suggests that the Mavic will automatically switch to ATTI mode when you don't have sufficient GPS and optical image sensor data.  I did not see any mention of ATTI controls in the manual...   But I think there will revisions and software updates.  It's a bit too soon to know if ATTI mode will be manually switchable or not.  But my guess is that even if it's not switchable manually it will automatically revert to ATTI mode when needed.  And if customers demand a manual control for ATTI mode I am sure DJI can add it through software updates.
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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-10-8 14:34
DJI does not recommend doing anything like this, and if there is a crash caused by it the flight d ...

Perhaps I need a .jpg of a tongue in cheek, I forget not everyone shares my sense of humor.
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Fulgerite Posted at 2016-10-9 03:02
So...  The preview manual I was able to read suggests that the Mavic will automatically switch to AT ...

There is no manual ATTI mode. No way to do it on the RC.
Maybe someday it could be implemented in the app, but don't know if or when that would ever happen.
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bigglyguy Posted at 2016-10-9 02:39
"Sorry, the product is not yet available in your country or region."

So that's a no then.

I guess not then, check back in a week or two.
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I've seen youtube clips that some people took off in a area with alot of metal, the compas error came up on the screen and the only way to go out a spin is putting the bird in Attii mode.  
This is a option that i prefere to have, so i'l keep my P4
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plasrobin Posted at 2016-10-11 00:46
I've seen youtube clips that some people took off in a area with alot of metal, the compas error cam ...

That's because they probably calibrated the compass with all that metal around.
I've taken off with metal around and as soon as I'm in the air and away from the metal the compass error goes away. But, I've calibrated my compass in a prior location that's free from interference.
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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-10-10 19:51
That's because they probably calibrated the compass with all that metal around.
I've taken off wit ...

That could be the case, but its still safer i think to have the ability to control it manually, hardware could always fail, but attii is like having 3 redundancies, the dual IMU and compass and my brain
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plasrobin Posted at 2016-10-11 02:09
That could be the case, but its still safer i think to have the ability to control it manually, ha ...

Maybe one day there could be a ATTI mode initiated by the app somehow, so who knows. I may not even be possible.
We'll have to wait and see in time.
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helidan Posted at 2016-10-7 11:09
Hmm,

I have a feeling this might upset a few people who prefer to fly in Atti to get smoother sho ...

Just put something to block GPS on top pf Mavic.
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Tharg (from the Posted at 2016-10-8 19:15
Very wrong.
If you have a poorly calibrated compass or a compass or GPS anomaly, switching to P-At ...

That came to my mind, too. I had one time with my P3P when a compasserror showed up while in the air and then it begun to fly away. Switched the mode and I got it back.
What to do in such a case with the mavic? Especially this case isn't covered by the care-option.
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