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Crashing the phantom but got some a few great shots!
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[size=14.6667px]Hello,
[size=14.6667px]Today i was a very lucky man still having my drone at the end of the day was a success. I decided to go filming in the Abandoned powerplant and the factory near it using the phantom 4. I did get some great shot, one of them is already online:

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however, once i decided to enter the factory, my drone started showing magnetic errors, and kept switching between GPS and ATI mode which led to my drone crashing and almost falling like 5m deep into the darkness that was filled with water a little.

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did any of you had problem flying indoors with the phantom?



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Yes, flying indoors with a medium sized drone can have its challenges.

So, You must learn to fly in ATTI mode, before having a catastrophe. You were lucky the damaged drone wasn't actually much worse.


Please be more careful, once you get the repair done...


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That my friend was a bad assed video though...Could have been right out of Star Wars. Indoor flying is best left to micro drones.  Fun to zip around but don't break stuff when you crash.
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Mastertech Posted at 2016-10-27 03:41
That my friend was a bad assed video though...Could have been right out of Star Wars. Indoor flying  ...

I was passing by and stopped to see if the door was open,,, once i saw it was i didn't hesitate and took the drone out /// You think the MAVIC will have less of a problem indoors as the phantom?
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RedHotPoker Posted at 2016-10-27 03:24
Yes, flying indoors with a medium sized drone can have its challenges.

So, You must learn to fly in ...

I was lucky the crash wasn't any worse, i havent been able to repair the landing foot yet, i need a special screwdriver for it ... : (
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skyticlus Posted at 2016-10-26 13:45
I was passing by and stopped to see if the door was open,,, once i saw it was i didn't hesitate an ...

Buy an inexpensive micro drone for indoor flights...
Get a Tiny Whoop for FPV flying...

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skyticlus Posted at 2016-10-27 06:45
I was passing by and stopped to see if the door was open,,, once i saw it was i didn't hesitate an ...

The issue isn't just that you were indoors.
You have no GPS because your Phantom loses its view of the sky.
Without GPS it is reliant on the compass to be able to fly straight.
But the factory is made of steel and the earth's normal magnetic field is severely distorted inside so your compass is useless and your drone can't follow your control inputs.
All the atti flying practice in the world won't help you when your compass can't be relied on.
Your flying location is not a good place to fly any DJI drone and you stand a good chance of crashing if you try it again.

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labroides@yahoo Posted at 2016-10-27 09:29
The issue isn't just that you were indoors.
You have no GPS because your Phantom loses its view of ...

I fully agree, and the Mavic will not do any better either, as it relies on the same sensors.
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labroides@yahoo Posted at 2016-10-27 06:29
The issue isn't just that you were indoors.
You have no GPS because your Phantom loses its view of ...

Maybe you are right, the factory did contain lots of metals, and the drone did make a lot of dust, could have brought the sensors confused maybe, because i have flown inside before but never crashed.
once that footage is online i'll share.
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RedHotPoker Posted at 2016-10-27 04:47
Buy an inexpensive micro drone for indoor flights...
Get a Tiny Whoop for FPV flying...

Too bad the micro drones don't have a camera of high quality yet // this one you showed seems sold out at the moment
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skyticlus Posted at 2016-10-27 16:26
Maybe you are right, the factory did contain lots of metals, and the drone did make a lot of dust, ...

Yes .. you've flown inside before, but not in a steel box that screws up your compass.
That's completely different.
To see what the Phantom has to deal with try going back with a hand compass and see what it does to that.
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Sorry to hear about the crash, but the footage you got was really nice. Thanks for sharing that. I would agree with labroides in that the metal from the factory had messed with the unit's compass, and would most likely cause another crash if reattempted.
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RedHotPoker Posted at 2016-10-27 04:47
Buy an inexpensive micro drone for indoor flights...
Get a Tiny Whoop for FPV flying...

This seems pretty legit, thanks for sharing that. The background music they chose does give the whole event a very Mario Kart like feel.
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Geebax Posted at 2016-10-27 00:40
I fully agree, and the Mavic will not do any better either, as it relies on the same sensors.

I don't walk to talk down to the mavic, because its a great device, but it think it will perform worse then the P4, because he could have put the switch on atti manualy on the controller so the compass will be off, if i understand/interpret it correctly the switch was on P, so the compass wil remain active as the mavic will go to atti mode, but the compass is still there, or could someone of DJI tell me if the mavic will go to atti the compass will be disabled as well, like when you switch the P4 controller to A ? Genuine question
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skyticlus Posted at 2016-10-26 23:27
Too bad the micro drones don't have a camera of high quality yet // this one you showed seems sold ...

You can install a higher quality camera on it, for FPV if you choose.
Picking up some parts and CA at the hobby shop today, and heard a couple of the staff talking about: Who's turn it was to borrow the Tiny Whoop? ... "Check the List".
It must be a popular item. ;-)

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plasrobin Posted at 2016-10-27 17:42
I don't walk to talk down to the mavic, because its a great device, but it think it will perform wo ...

No ... Switch to atti and your Phantom ignores GPS data but still uses the compass.
Take your Phantom indoors and away from windows and it loses GPS and automatcally switches to atti.
That would happen exactly with the Mavic too.
No GPS and you are in atti without any switching but your Phantom still depends on the compass.
It can't fly straight without it..
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RedHotPoker Posted at 2016-10-27 15:30
You can install a higher quality camera on it, for FPV if you choose.
Picking up some parts and CA  ...

Too bad the market isn't that big yet over here (belgium)... but i'm looking into it to be taking with me when i explorer upcomming buildings
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skyticlus Posted at 2016-10-27 09:48
Too bad the market isn't that big yet over here (belgium)... but i'm looking into it to be taking  ...

Yes, they would be good for that purpose, provided there is enough light, for the camera.
There may be a compatable bracket or mount coming soon that will hold a Lume Cube, on a Mavic.
http://www.lumecube.com/164.html

But I don't know how small you can go with micro drones, that will still carry the 1/4 lb weight, comfortably.


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That's what's been called, Risk Reward, lucky escape, you've got some great advice here, good luck
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Lesson learned, but that was an awesome video. Thanks for sharing.
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MGR57 Posted at 2016-10-28 11:47
Lesson learned, but that was an awesome video. Thanks for sharing.

Probaly not, i'll keep taking the risk if i know i can film something worth it...
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skyticlus Posted at 2016-10-28 18:52
Probaly not, i'll keep taking the risk if i know i can film something worth it...

Now that is a real belgian hero keep posting i really think you made some nice footage there
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plasrobin Posted at 2016-10-29 01:09
Now that is a real belgian hero  keep posting i really think you made some nice footage there

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MGR57 Posted at 2016-10-28 11:47
Lesson learned, but that was an awesome video. Thanks for sharing.

no problem
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RedHotPoker Posted at 2016-10-28 00:30
Yes, they would be good for that purpose, provided there is enough light, for the camera.
There ma ...

does seem handy,,, especially because the dji cameras don't preform that well during night... ofcourse their made for flying during daylight.



seems cheap not to big and good video quality, it would be less expensive if i crashed this one
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skyticlus Posted at 2016-10-29 01:52
does seem handy,,, especially because the dji cameras don't preform that well during night... ofco ...

Yes, the video captured with that drone is decent enough. And with the prop gaurds, you could fly it indoors, after you are more familiar with it... ;-)


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So, what happened next? Did you buy the cheaper drone for difficult indoor flying?
Have you been able to repair your Phantom yet? ;-)

Inquiring minds want/wish to know!! Haha


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RedHotPoker Posted at 2016-11-13 21:34
So, what happened next? Did you buy the cheaper drone for difficult indoor flying?
Have you been a ...

I did buy a cheaper one to practice indoors and it is going well so far, however it is without cam, i tryed to attach a tomtom bandit on it but it was too heavy Lol, i'm thinking about the new YUneec Breeze or a parrot and install my own cam to it if it comes without one ... for indoors use
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skyticlus Posted at 2016-11-15 10:03
I did buy a cheaper one to practice indoors and it is going well so far, however it is without cam, ...

My entrance into RC piloting & first adventure was with the Parrot AR Drone 2.0.

I suppose that would be considered cheap entertainment. Ha

It was an experience no doubt.


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RedHotPoker Posted at 2016-11-15 18:10
My entrance into RC piloting & first adventure was with the Parrot AR Drone 2.0.

I suppose that w ...

oh yeah, the drone ain't fixed yet, they are looking into it if it under their warranty
do you have a youtube channel so i can see some of your stuff ?
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skyticlus Posted at 2016-11-15 11:51
oh yeah, the drone ain't fixed yet, they are looking into it if it under their warranty
do you have ...

How much longer shall they need to ponder the evidence? ;-)

I once hated Google, now I dispise Googe, so to answer truthful, NO! I haven't progressed past dislike strongly yet. ;-)
They own YouTube. So I have a big problem with that.

But guess what, I finally opened a Vimeo account... So I NOW have a place to place my vids. Ha

What's up with wording, in the title of this thread?  Chuckles

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RedHotPoker Posted at 2016-11-15 23:21
How much longer shall they need to ponder the evidence? ;-)

I once hated Google, now I dispise Goo ...

They took it for repairs, after researching the software they'll decide if it is under warranty or if i have to pay extra for the repairs .  . .
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