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Hi guys,

This is a question for DJI.  

I am curious if 3rd party app developers will be able to develop their apps for the p4 pro's new screen.  I am especially interested in using the p4 pro for photogrammetry work due to its new 1 inch sensor and 20 mp stills.  

If this can not be done, I am hoping the x4s will work with the inspire 1.

If the Map Pilot developers see this, I will be asking the same question on your forums shortly.

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Also, does it have WiFi for maps & such?
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You can purchase the Pro not the Plus.  You will have the same options as the current P4.  It does have wifi so you can cache maps.
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Nothing for the Inspire 2 is backward compatible to the Inspire 1.
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does the p4's HDMI addon work with the p4p? I was told in support chat that it does.

does the p4p+ remote work with ios devices (ipad mini 4 or iphone) via usb? so i can use the screen but also the ipad? (it would have a data connection vs none on the dji screen)
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flynewengland Posted at 2016-11-15 19:43
does the p4's HDMI addon work with the p4p? I was told in support chat that it does.

does the p4p+  ...

I have the same question about the HDMI addon. My guess is that the HDMI addon does work since the remote appears to be the same.
I planned on chatting with support but they were so behind, that I never got an answer from them.

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fans27af97d9 Posted at 2016-11-16 13:49
I have the same question about the HDMI addon. My guess is that the HDMI addon does work since the ...

It actually does
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flynewengland Posted at 2016-11-16 11:43
does the p4's HDMI addon work with the p4p? I was told in support chat that it does.

does the p4p+  ...

You can, but if you connect to a tablet, the build-in screen won't show
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DJI-Thor Posted at 2016-11-16 09:32
You can, but if you connect to a tablet, the build-in screen won't show

Hi Thor
Will the screen on p4p work with Mavic or are dji bringing out one for Mavic ,
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hallmark007 Posted at 2016-11-16 04:38
Hi Thor
Will the screen on p4p work with Mavic or are dji bringing out one for Mavic ,

No, and no.
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flynewengland Posted at 2016-11-15 17:43
does the p4's HDMI addon work with the p4p? I was told in support chat that it does.

does the p4p+  ...

Aloha fly,

     If you want to use iOS devices with the P4P, you have to use the P4P, not the P4P+.  The P4P+ comes with the small CrystalSky display.  The P4P requires a user supplied display, so you can use an iOS device.

     Can you verify this Thor?

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DJI-Thor Posted at 2016-11-15 22:32
You can, but if you connect to a tablet, the build-in screen won't show

Aloha Thor,

      Can you look at and verify if what I told flynewengland is correct?  Mahalo!

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Tahoe Ed Posted at 2016-11-15 17:09
You can purchase the Pro not the Plus.  You will have the same options as the current P4.  It does h ...

Aloha Ed,

     When the CrystalSky ~8" display comes out, will it be compatible with the P4P?  Also, is there a time on the horizon when the DJI goggles will be on the market?  Mahalo for the help!

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Cetacean Posted at 2016-11-16 18:06
Aloha Thor,

      Can you look at and verify if what I told flynewengland is correct?  Mahalo!

You're right, you can't use iPad
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DJI-Thor Posted at 2016-11-16 00:26
You're right, you can't use iPad

Aloha Thor,

     So, the new P4Pro can use an Android device or an iOS device just like the P4?  And the P4Pro+ has the CrystalSky 5.5" display built in?

     Sorry to be persistent here.

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It's possible to use the new 7.85 inch display on the  P4P remote ?
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Hi Thor understand your under a bit of pressure but doesn't mean you have to give a wron answer to my question.
Or maybe you need to read it again
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Where is this 7.8' screen everyone is talking about?
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I imagine that the GL300E and GL300F RC's can be used interchangeably with the P4P?
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hallmark007 Posted at 2016-11-16 13:44
Hi Thor understand your under a bit of pressure but doesn't mean you have to give a wron answer to ...

I would say at least half of his answer is right considering that you can't remove the display from the P4P+ rc.
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trance728 Posted at 2016-11-17 14:06
I would say at least half of his answer is right considering that you can't remove the display fro ...

I asked 2 questions 1 is right 1 is wrong, so yes he got it half right, I asked because I have a Mavic in the post, and p4p on order now, I didn't want 2 monitors , I now understand that monitor will be available to purchase separately for use with both,
So Thor got it 50% right, a bit like the whole Mavic mess.. lol
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flyingbuying Posted at 2016-11-16 21:16
Where is this 7.8' screen everyone is talking about?

Look for CrystalSky in the Inspire 2 presentation
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Someone knows if It's possible to use the 7.85 inch display on the  P4P remote ?
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Bullflyer Posted at 2016-11-16 07:37
It's possible to use the new 7.85 inch display on the  P4P remote ?

Aloha Bullflyer,

     The DJI web site says all three CrystalSky monitors will be usable with Phantom 3 (A&P) and Phantom 4 and P4Pro systems.

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Ok so this CrystalSky 5.5inch - is that what comes with the P4+ but its not removable? Or is this completely different to that screen?

If its the same surely it would be better to buy it seperate so we can use it with other models?
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hallmark007 Posted at 2016-11-16 08:44
Hi Thor understand your under a bit of pressure but doesn't mean you have to give a wron answer to ...

Aloha 007,

     Thor's answer was correct in both cases if you look at the DJI web site (sorry trance).  The P4P+ has a built in CrystalSky based screen but it is not the CrystalSky 5.5", 1080p, 1000 cd/m2 monitor that will be sold later.  The frame is totally different and the HDMI is in the HDMI module like current P4s and P3Ps and P3As.  Look at the promotions for the CrystalSky monitors and you will see what the DJI product will look like.  That small 5.5" CrystalSky monitor will be compatible with the Mavic.  Technically, your question could be answered with a yes or a no and still be right in both no answers that Thor gave.

     This is because your question was vague under the circumstances.  Yes the screen is a CrystalSky based screen but no it is not a CrystalSky screen because the CrystalSky screen goes in the CrystalSky monitor.  Yes, the CrystalSky monitor, when it comes out, can be used by the Mavic system, but no, the Mavic will not be able to use the screen on the P4P+ because it is not a CrystalSky 5.5" monitor.  Be happy, you were both right and the Mavic will be able to use a superior, and removable, monitor.

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Cetacean Posted at 2016-11-18 10:44
Aloha 007,

     Thor's answer was correct in both cases if you look at the DJI web site (sorry tr ...

thank you for this reply, this explains a lot!
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flyingbuying Posted at 2016-11-17 16:14
Ok so this CrystalSky 5.5inch - is that what comes with the P4+ but its not removable? Or is this co ...

Aloha flybuy,

     The P4P+ uses a CrystalSky based screen.  It is not the CrystalSky 5.5" monitor that will come out later.  For example, the CrystalSky monitor has built in HDMI that can be used on other platforms, but the CrystalSky based screen on the P4P+ does not have built in HDMI and depends on the HDMI module used in P3s P&A and the P4.  So, the P4P (without the display) will have to have a USB replacement with a HDMI module in order to use HDMI, add another $100.

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Looks just like a P4 Remote Controller to me!
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agonz Posted at 2016-11-17 02:10
I imagine that the GL300E and GL300F RC's can be used interchangeably with the P4P?

Aloha agonz,

     The GL300E has the built in 1080p screen and the GL300F is the $315 RC without the display.  The specs say they can be used interchangeably but the GL300E costs $600 because of the built-in screen.  The only difference in the listings are due to the display.

     The GL300F probably cannot be used with the P4 because it has the 5.8 GHz and the 2.4 GHz has more power.  Bummer!

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Cetacean Posted at 2016-11-18 03:44
Aloha 007,

     Thor's answer was correct in both cases if you look at the DJI web site (sorry tr ...

Hi Cetacean
Thanks for that, I suppose the answer I got was somewhat vague, from someone who could have easily read into my question the information I was looking for , as you yourself did so eloquently,
I posed similar question to dji Ken who like you sent me the same info you sent.
I thank you for clearing the matter up, my parents thought me a long time ago that two wrongs never make a right, but perhaps you proved sometimes it can..

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Cetacean Posted at 2016-11-17 21:44
Aloha 007,

     Thor's answer was correct in both cases if you look at the DJI web site (sorry tr ...

Why say sorry to me? My response was still accurate.

Thanks for the more in depth explanation of the crystalsky monitors though, I will probably look into getting one when they get released.
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Cetacean Posted at 2016-11-18 04:27
Aloha agonz,

     The GL300E has the built in 1080p screen and the GL300F is the $315 RC without  ...

They could offer two GL300L, one with the small screen and another with the big one !!!
The GL300L.5 and the GL300L.7, now they have the idea in the air.................
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Bullflyer Posted at 2016-11-18 23:40
They could offer two GL300L, one with the small screen and another with the big one !!!
The GL300L ...

Sorry, the GL300E is the only one they will offer, You can get the GL300F and ad the 7.85" CrystalSky.
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When we gonna see prices for the CrystalSky sizes and when should they be available?
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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-11-18 16:49
Sorry, the GL300E is the only one they will offer, You can get the GL300F and ad the 7.85" Crystal ...

Sorry, my fault, I wanted to say GL300E.5 and GL300E.7 .
In this way, we could choose which screen size to buy with the P4P+
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Bullflyer Posted at 2016-11-19 03:07
Sorry, my fault, I wanted to say GL300E.5 and GL300E.7 .
In this way, we could choose which screen  ...

Yes, I understand, but as of now the 5.5 is the only one for the +.
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trance728 Posted at 2016-11-18 03:02
Why say sorry to me? My response was still accurate.

Thanks for the more in depth explanation of ...

Aloha trance,

     Really, the nice thing about what I am trying to explain is everyone is right.  Hard to beat that!  We just have to figure out what is real and coming down the pike.  Like you, I really want to get one, the 7.85 one, when they come out.  But the 2000 cd/m2 one is probably too much.  I will still use a sunshade, just to keep the UV off of the equipment.  The part I like is the HDMI option.  There is so much coming out that uses HDMI.

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hallmark007 Posted at 2016-11-17 21:19
Hi Cetacean
Thanks for that, I suppose the answer I got was somewhat vague, from someone who could ...

Aloha 007,

     Mahalo Bond!

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Bullflyer Posted at 2016-11-18 05:40
They could offer two GL300L, one with the small screen and another with the big one !!!
The GL300L ...

Aloha Bullflyer,

     Patience my high flyer Bull.  As DJI continues down it development path, you will eventually be able to get a P4P with a CrystalSky 5.5" display, or a CrystalSky 7.85" with 1000 cd/m2 or a CrystalSky 7.85" with 2000 cd/m2, and HDMI goggles with 1080p resolution.  Plus, you will still be able to use your tablet and third party software, all with the GL300F Remote Controller.

     Can you confirm that Ken?

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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-11-18 09:33
Yes, I understand, but as of now the 5.5 is the only one for the +.

Aloha Ken,

     Can you confirm what I said in post #43?  

     Now I can see why you have been so busy!  Hmm, the P4P, P4P+, Inspire 2, Matrice 600 Pro and CrystalSky 5.5” / 7.85” 1000 cd/m2, 7.85” Ultra Bright 2000 cd/m2 so far as I can tell!

     Somebody does not want you to sleep!

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