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Had my Phantom 2 Vision+ up about 300 feet.  Seems like it shot up there very quickly but it took a while to get back down.  I had the thottle almost all the way down but not 100% (I think it is 90% when not fully clicked down???).  Not sure of the wind speeds up there at 300 feet but is there a way to get it down quicker other than executing the CSC to stop the blades (joking!).  From what I have read it is best to be moving forward or backward (preferably into the wind) when decenting to prevent prop wash.  Any suggestions?

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You have everything about right.  It will come down slower than going up to help avoid the vortex.
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Yep, you got it Ryan.  Always descend on two axes as if it were a fixed wing aircraft and you will get your bird home.

Come straight down and sooner or later VRS will bite your ass and you will have a kit phantom to sweep up.  And yes, into the wind if you can, this is how the grown up planes do it!
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It definitely goes up faster than it comes down (while still in flight ) Any movement laterally/forward/backward is preferred to a straight down decent.  The props of any craft create an area of "dirty air" behind their thrust.  in quads and copters this is (generally) downward.  So lateral movement will "clean" the air around the props and allow the craft to travel more smoothly (no wobble).   I try to do decent from far away then when I get closer I'll circle while reducing altitude.  

Some of the guys may have a better method for faster decent. but I find that if you are moving forward and down it's much faster and safer/more stable.
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This forum is great!  Lots of experienced people on here.  Much better than going to youtube.  Thanks everyone.  One other quick question.  what is the altitude range of the DJI Phantom.  Isn't it programmed to go no more than 400 feet in settings, but I can hookup copter to laptop and adjust radius and altitude right?  I think I read somewhere 700 meters is range for FPV and I've seen stupid people going 4,000 feet with copter.

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You can change the max height and distance settings in the Phantom Assistant application.
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rrbcap.gmail Posted at 2015-2-9 11:38
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Yes you certainly can go higher but keep an eye open for f16s!
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rrbcap.gmail Posted at 2015-2-9 11:38
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You can go as high as you can keep a connection and the same as distance, but it's not recommended.  400 feet altitude max from the FFA in the US and keep within sight for distance.
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Yeah, I'm out in the Country but I see planes buzzing overhead to land at Port Columbus International.  I would hope they would be 400 feet above but they sure look close otherwise.
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rrbcap.gmail Posted at 2015-2-9 11:50
Yeah, I'm out in the Country but I see planes buzzing overhead to land at Port Columbus Internationa ...

If you are curious there are apps like Flightradar24 for the iPad that can tell you all kinds of information about the planes overhead. It is not entirely accurate all the time but it is amazing how often it is spot on. For many planes you can see their current exact altitude along with their ID, company, source and destination. I used this to find out that the UPS jets that pass over my home every evening are at least 3500 ft above me even though they look close enough to touch sometimes. BTW I used the app to see my P2V+ passing overhead on one of those UPS jets before it got delivered a couple of weeks ago.
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