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Suggestion: Yaw Smoothness setting.
6692 28 2016-12-24 20:02:01
JasonMBryant
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The "Gimbal Pitch Smoothness" setting is terrific. I love the way it gives a natural movement to changing the gimbal. It takes a little practice to avoid overshooting my mark, but the results are great.

One of the hardest things about using the Mavic is making it turn in a smooth, natural way. I've worked on the Expo settings a lot, and that gives a big improvement. However, it's still hard to avoid a little nudge occasionally when starting a turn.

If there were a "Yaw Smoothness" that worked like "Gimbal Pitch Smoothness", that would be amazing. I wouldn't even set it as high as I do with gimbal pitch, I'd just use a little of it, combined with lightening up the Expo setting that I use. Using the Expo settings combined with the smoothing out the yaw would give better results than either alone, and it would make avoiding jerky turning very easy.
2016-12-24 20:02:01
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Jenee 2
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What setting do you have it set on?
2016-12-24 20:26:10
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I agree, it would be a nice setting to have.  
2016-12-24 21:05:07
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Jenee 2 Posted at 2016-12-24 23:26
What setting do you have it set on?

I have Expo set on 10 and Yaw Endpoint set on 50. Expo set to 10 is a little extreme, I know. It leaves some dead space in the center of the stick. I did try 20 and 15, but it was a little too jerky. I think that as I practice, I'll get better, and 20 will be where I end up.

I've been practicing moving the stick very slowly so that it will gently start a turn. I get it sometimes, but it still needs work to be consistent. Gimbal Tilt Smoothing is set to 20, and it is much smoother and more consistent with much less practice.
2016-12-24 21:06:29
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I think this video pretty much pinpoints all the settings needed for smooth video using the mavic...

(tip: skip to 2:15 to get to the good part)
2016-12-24 21:37:38
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Yes, I've already watched that video. I do everything that he suggests.
2016-12-24 21:41:25
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stealle Posted at 2016-12-25 00:37
I think this video pretty much pinpoints all the settings needed for smooth video using the mavic...

(tip: skip to 2:15 to get to the good part)

You should check out what he says at 13:00.

"The tilt has one secret weapon. The secret weapon should be on the yaw as well."
2016-12-24 21:49:25
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Ahh... ok. I follow you.  I watched that video awhile back. To be honest, it's been too cold to fly so I haven't even had a chance to try any of the settings.  So, are you saying with yaw expo at .20 and yaw end stop at 50 it slows it down some, but it still yaws too quickly? What exactly is different with this setting?
2016-12-24 22:08:03
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stealle Posted at 2016-12-25 01:08
Ahh... ok. I follow you.  I watched that video awhile back. To be honest, it's been too cold to fly so I haven't even had a chance to try any of the settings.  So, are you saying with yaw expo at .20 and yaw end stop at 50 it slows it down some, but it still yaws too quickly? What exactly is different with this setting?

No matter what the settings are, your thumb still has to move at a very precise rate to get a good turn. One little bump can add a bump to your video that distracts the viewer. Even with the gentlest yaw settings, if you move the stick too far too quickly, the drone starts turning instantly.

The smoothness setting on gimbal tilt avoids that. If you move the gimbal quickly, it will accelerate into the movement instead of going straight into the change. So if you're too rough one time, you still get a smooth movement. Having that on the yaw would be nice.
2016-12-24 23:51:31
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Isn't this one of the things that the new "Cinematic" flight mode does? I haven't had a chance to really test it, yet.
2016-12-25 09:49:31
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In the video, he mentions Gimbal Tilt SmoothTrack and it shows as a setting that can be adjusted but I simply just don't have that setting. Has it been removed?
2016-12-25 17:26:57
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Jenee 2 Posted at 2016-12-26 09:26
In the video, he mentions Gimbal Tilt SmoothTrack and it shows as a setting that can be adjusted but I simply just don't have that setting. Has it been removed?

Do you have Gimbal Pitch Smoothness? That's the same thing. I'm not sure why his DJI Go has a different name for it than mine.
2016-12-25 18:19:45
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JasonMBryant Posted at 2016-12-26 10:19
Do you have Gimbal Pitch Smoothness? That's the same thing. I'm not sure why his DJI Go has a different name for it than mine.

It was something I brought out in another thread.  The nomenclature between iOS and Android apps can be quite different.  On top of that, translation issues into different languages can cause problems.  I can understand some slight translation issues or minor quirks but having menus, settings, and even procedures vary is unacceptable.
2016-12-25 20:31:18
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JasonMBryant Posted at 2016-12-26 12:19
Do you have Gimbal Pitch Smoothness? That's the same thing. I'm not sure why his DJI Go has a different name for it than mine.

No I don't have that either. In the video it shows 4 settings but I only have 3, the first 2 and the last one.
2016-12-25 23:54:13
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Jenee 2 Posted at 2016-12-25 23:54
No I don't have that either. In the video it shows 4 settings but I only have 3, the first 2 and the last one.

Okay, that's serious.

Do you have the latest firmware?

Do you have the latest version of DJI Go?

If you have all that, I'm out of ideas. Maybe a mod will know.
2016-12-26 00:17:51
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I just tried changing the settings like in that video (on android tablet with go 4.0 latest update) but I can't change that EXP or yaw endpoint. When I change it from 0.25 to 0.20 it's in red, and it doesn't get saved. Going back or out of the option menu and than back, it jumps back to the standard value of 0.20 and 100 for yaw endpoint.
2016-12-26 06:51:08
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GeForceFX-be Posted at 2016-12-26 08:51
I just tried changing the settings like in that video (on android tablet with go 4.0 latest update) but I can't change that EXP or yaw endpoint. When I change it from 0.25 to 0.20 it's in red, and it doesn't get saved. Going back or out of the option menu and than back, it jumps back to the standard value of 0.20 and 100 for yaw endpoint.

Is your Mavic turned on when you change the settings?
2016-12-26 07:02:00
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JasonMBryant Posted at 2016-12-26 16:02
Is your Mavic turned on when you change the settings?

yes it is turned on
2016-12-26 07:10:04
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JasonMBryant Posted at 2016-12-26 18:17
Okay, that's serious.

Do you have the latest firmware?

I have the latest android GO app 4.01 and I have the latest firmware.
Under Gimbal Advanced Settings, the video shows at the very top, Configuration 1, 2 and 3. I don't have that up the top. What I have in Gimbal settings is:
Gimbal Tilt Limit which is an On/Off slider for 30.
Gimbal Start/Stop Buffer which can be set between 0 and 30
Gimbal Pitch EXP which can be set between 1 and 50
Gimbal Pan Synchronous Follow which is an ON/Off slider
and that is it.
2016-12-26 20:13:01
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Jenee 2 Posted at 2016-12-27 12:13
I have the latest android GO app 4.01 and I have the latest firmware.
Under Gimbal Advanced Settings, the video shows at the very top, Configuration 1, 2 and 3. I don't have that up the top. What I have in Gimbal settings is:
Gimbal Tilt Limit which is an On/Off slider for 30.

Gimbal Tilt limit when enabled lets you tilt the camera up 30° from straight forward.
Start/Stop buffer is how the camera tilt reacts to you finger movement. 0 the gimbal moves fast and stops fast.
set to 30 the gimbal moves very slowly and when you let go of the wheel it stops slowly as well.
Pitch EXPO is how sensitive the wheel is.
Synchronous Follow is when you yaw the camera will follow the exact heading of the aircraft which will be a jerky movement unless you pan very slowly. And when enabled the camera will yaw and have a smoother pan.
2016-12-27 22:09:57
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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-12-28 16:09
Gimbal Tilt limit when enabled lets you tilt the camera up 30° from straight forward.
Start/Stop buffer is how the camera tilt reacts to you finger movement. 0 the gimbal moves fast and stops fast.
set to 30 the gimbal moves very slowly and when you let go of the wheel it stops slowly as well.

Great, thank you very much for that. Just what I wanted to know.
2016-12-27 22:17:48
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Jenee 2 Posted at 2016-12-28 14:17
Great, thank you very much for that. Just what I wanted to know.

Your welcome.
2016-12-27 22:24:51
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Totally second this idea - its of no use when you can dial down all the other settings but the yaw remains super twitchy - I have ruined many a shot by knocking the yaw accidentally - PLEASE UPDATE TO INCLUDE SMOOTHNESS SETTING FOR THE YAW CONTROL - exactly as the op says - a delay that smooths out the yaw / pan when starting and stopping for nice cinematic shots.
2017-4-20 20:29:16
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On my Samsung Edge Plus I can adjust a lot of settings, using Go Fly, but not "Yaw Settings," which is grayed out. I've tweaked what IS showing under the Gimbal icon and advanced settings, but it won't let me access the "Yaw settings" tab.  Any ideas on how to get in to adjust YAW settings?  Thanks....  new owner here....
2017-5-18 07:35:55
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Any suggestions how to smooth out the Spark yaw movements?
2017-8-9 14:20:04
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This is exactly what I was talking about in a video I made and posted here. No one was understanding what I was talking about. If you look at the gimbal while you yaw you will see the gimbal starts moving before the aircraft does. Everyone keeps saying that this is better because it smooths out your shot. How is that? If the camera is the first thing to move, how can you achive a smooth start and finish of the yaw action. If you look at other drones like the Phantom, the drone starts yawing first and the camera smoothly catches up. Giving a fluid start and stop of the yaw motion.
2017-8-9 21:45:25
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I also have a yuneec q500 4k. When i yaw this drone the Camera stays on a fixpoint(at the horizon) and smoothly begins from there to yaw in the same direction. When i stop yawing the drone at once, the camera can stop very smoothly because it's movement is in a delay from the Drones movement. This is what the mavic pro's gimbal also should do.
2017-8-20 00:31:24
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stealle Posted at 2016-12-24 21:37
I think this video pretty much pinpoints all the settings needed for smooth video using the mavic...

(tip: skip to 2:15 to get to the good part)

This is awesome! Totally worth watching it.  Thank you!
2017-10-5 19:12:28
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Nice! I hope the DJI guys keep eye on this thread.... Have you arealdy tried the cinematic mode? Does it get more smooth moves in yaw?
2017-10-5 21:10:40
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