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RCNJ
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Watch it in 720p then in 1080P and then in 4K (if you don't have a 4K TV or screen don't bother ) but there is a difference
I record in 4K 24 fps, then either output the same, or at 1080 @24fps.

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bantis Posted at 2017-1-3 21:07
That is a terrible comparison video. Showing different things. I honestly can't tell the difference between the two.

Completely agree with bantis.
This video was posted on another site, and it was kind of bashed and had a lot of negative comments because it wasn't the same route, and someone was able to point out how the rock quarry was taken at much different times of the day, and how he was flying much faster in 4K then 1080p for most of the video.
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@RCNJ enjoyed your video.Since we are talking about editing and PC's even being able to edit. Would a....
MacBook Pro (retina) 2.7GHz i5, 8gb 1867 MHz DDR3, Iris Graphics 6100 1536MB be okay to do 4K editing with?


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RCKable Posted at 2017-7-16 12:42
@RCNJ enjoyed your video.Since we are talking about editing and PC's even being able to edit. Would a....
MacBook Pro (retina) 2.7GHz i5, 8gb 1867 MHz DDR3, Iris Graphics 6100 1536MB be okay to do 4K editing with?

For sure if you are into Apple and have the budget etc, I don't have anything like that, but I'm looking also for a better laptop, the vid above was 470mb and took my pc 30 mins to export using premier pro lol
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That's actually what my laptop is.  But I've seen people saying you have to have an i7 and I have yet to attempt to export any videos from my Mavic.
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Bekaru Tree Posted at 2017-7-16 11:57
pardon my ignorance - what is aliasing?

Jagged, unsmooth, edges in straight lines due to compression.  The Mavic uses a newer version of the original P4 sensor which is inferior to the original when recording 1080x60 due to its anti-aliasing algorithm.  It's fine in 1080x30.  There is an article online detailing this issue but I'm on my phone at the moment & can't locate the link.

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WYHSniper1007 Posted at 2017-1-4 13:06
You can download Premiere pro pirated version. It's free

Better option:
Get DaVinci Resolve which is FREE, and better at color grading than Adobe..
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no point in shooting 4k
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2.7 at 30fps always
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Dirty Bird Posted at 2017-7-16 18:28
Jagged, unsmooth, edges in straight lines due to compression.  The Mavic uses a newer version of the original P4 sensor which is inferior to the original when recording 1080x60 due to its anti-aliasing algorithm.  It's fine in 1080x30.  There is an article online detailing this issue but I'm on my phone at the moment & can't locate the link.

thanks dirtybird - i appreciate the expalatoin and background u provided
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How to set 4K
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Tripp Posted at 2017-1-3 20:08
I guess I'm bad at this as well... of course the 4k video is going to be better, but I don't see the 1080 60 fps as bad or unusable.  If you are shooting 4k at 30 fps and then scaling it down to 1080 at 30 fps what do you gain if you don't zoom/crop?  I'm a photographer and when I shoot photos, it pays to have more resolution so that you can crop, but with video I don't see why more fps wouldn't be better.  The Phantom 4 pro shoots 4k @ 60fps...wouldn't you shoot 60 fps @ 4k if you had a phantom 4 pro?  My brother has a phantom 4 and he shoots at 4k thinking that in the not so distant future all media will be 4k and I can see that argument, but today with most everything being 1080 I trying to understand why shooting mpeg 4 at a higher resolution and then down scaling would be beneficial.

Should give you a tighter Frame as well


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On my Mavic I prefer 2.7K
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2.7k here also
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fansb113793c Posted at 2017-1-3 19:11
From what I gathered, it seems that 2.6K is the way to go. It gives a benefit of future crop if ever required, and 4k on Mavic is just a gimmik, because bitrate they use is not suffcient for a frame of that size, making 4k in no way better (or even worse) then 2.6k

I agree, 4K is more of a gimmick.  Does everyone realize that unless you have a 4K screen, 4K is pretty pointless.  There is a slight difference if you're watching on a 1080p monitor, but after upload times, download times and space on your card/phone it's not worth it.  2K seems like a good middle ground if you really want to up your pixels and I honestly think 4K looks a little too grainy and cannot handle the light sensitivity yet.  But if you are like me and downloading to your phone  you will have to render down to 720p anyway.  No one on their phone will be able to tell the difference if when at the time you were recording in 4K, 2K, 1080 or 720 because they are watching in less than 720p...  I do shoot in 720p a lot because of this and I have no problems with it.  Even when blown up it is more about the content than the quality...Keep that in mind.  And as for frames per second (fps) if you shoot at a higher frame rate, (highest is 120 fps in 720p), you will be able to do slow-motion.  Otherwise, if you are not trying to do slow-motion, I wouldn't go above 30 fps.
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fans08362c6e Posted at 2017-12-18 22:03
I agree, 4K is more of a gimmick.  Does everyone realize that unless you have a 4K screen, 4K is pretty pointless.  There is a slight difference if you're watching on a 1080p monitor, but after upload times, download times and space on your card/phone it's not worth it.  2K seems like a good middle ground if you really want to up your pixels and I honestly think 4K looks a little too grainy and cannot handle the light sensitivity yet.  But if you are like me and downloading to your phone  you will have to render down to 720p anyway.  No one on their phone will be able to tell the difference if when at the time you were recording in 4K, 2K, 1080 or 720 because they are watching in less than 720p...  I do shoot in 720p a lot because of this and I have no problems with it.  Even when blown up it is more about the content than the quality...Keep that in mind.  And as for frames per second (fps) if you shoot at a higher frame rate, (highest is 120 fps in 720p), you will be able to do slow-motion.  Otherwise, if you are not trying to do slow-motion, I wouldn't go above 30 fps.

For now I only shoot 1080 25fps and tested with 50fps also.
Both worked great on my MP
My other camera's 'only' shoot 1080, so until everything is 4K in my workflow, I will probably keep at that resolution.
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ChristienPhoto Posted at 2017-7-15 20:45
4K video is only good on 4k monitors or TVs, which still has yet to take off. Do 1080p, but fps depends on what you're using it for. For standard videos to post online, 30fps, for more cinematic, shutter at 1/50 and 24fps, and for slowmo, 60fps, and then downgrade to 30 or 24fps in post. Hope that helps. I'm new to drones, but know a bit about camera work.

so say if i wanted to just get a regular landscape clip in 4k but then want to do something that has slow mo right after like someone walking by the water for example . what should i film at and what should i edit it in ( i use final cut)
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Bekaru Tree Posted at 2017-7-16 11:57
pardon my ignorance - what is aliasing?

Aliasing is also know as Moire, it's when you get the effect of moving lines in things like vertical picket fences, rooftops, ect.., As far as 4K vs 1080 its all about frame size, here is a photo comparison, you can notice in the OP's original video in the rock piles of the 1080p 60FPS

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QuadKid Posted at 2018-3-28 13:47
Aliasing is also know as Moire, it's when you get the effect of moving lines in things like vertical picket fences, rooftops, ect.., As far as 4K vs 1080 its all about frame size, here is a photo comparison, you can notice in the OP's original video in the rock piles of the 1080p 60FPS

[view_image]

thanks quad kid - i finally have the word to explain an issue i experiance.
Do you perhaps know what causes aliasing?
Summary of 1080p vs 4k - 4k makes you look buffer..
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Bekaru MP UAV Posted at 2018-3-28 13:57
thanks quad kid - i finally have the word to explain an issue i experiance.
Do you perhaps know what causes aliasing?
Summary of 1080p vs 4k - 4k makes you look buffer..

Mostly the small sensor of the P3 & MP series, The new MA helps with the 100 mbps bitrate in eliminating it, you just need to feel it out with the settings. As stated above 1080p @ 30 FPS gives a high quality video, saves on SD card space & is much easier to work with in Post Ed. I use 1080p / 30FPS for anything I intend to upload or share. I only use 4K when taking personal family videos BBQ, Beach ect. that I intend to watch on my TV.
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QuadKid Posted at 2018-3-28 14:05
Mostly the small sensor of the P3 & MP series, The new MA helps with the 100 mbps bitrate in eliminating it, you just need to feel it out with the settings. As stated above 1080p @ 30 FPS gives a high quality video, saves on SD card space & is much easier to work with in Post Ed. I use 1080p / 30FPS for anything I intend to upload or share. I only use 4K when taking personal family videos BBQ, Beach ect. that I intend to watch on my TV.

ok - i am starting to understand, thanks.
when you say "feel it out in the settings" are you referring to sharpness, contrast and saturation?
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Bekaru MP UAV Posted at 2018-3-28 14:28
ok - i am starting to understand, thanks.
when you say "feel it out in the settings" are you referring to sharpness, contrast and saturation?

Yes sir, practice and knowing your lighting conditions is important.
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QuadKid Posted at 2018-3-28 15:47
Yes sir, practice and knowing your lighting conditions is important.

cool thanks - i will work on that
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For me on a 4k device you for sure can see the difference between the two.  For me space is not an issue and either is just as easy to post edit.  I figure that soon nearly everything will be 4k capable viewing so why not make it now in 4k so you will always have the good 4k quality.   Just my opinion and if not a big deal for any of you then by all means.
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I prefer cinema 4K 4096x2160p and that setting is available with the Mavic Pro.
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QuadKid Posted at 2018-3-28 13:47
Aliasing is also know as Moire, it's when you get the effect of moving lines in things like vertical picket fences, rooftops, ect.., As far as 4K vs 1080 its all about frame size, here is a photo comparison, you can notice in the OP's original video in the rock piles of the 1080p 60FPS

[view_image]

Eh, I always thought aliasing was the pixelation of lines. It's when the video signal gets f-cked up, and you're left with a distortion. I'm not sure that's the same thing as high sharpness with close, vertical lines.
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Dirty Bird Posted at 2017-7-16 10:55
Mavic is fine with 1080x30.  Has aliasing issues at 1080x60.

You can fix that. Make sure the shutter is higher than 1/120 fps. Don't get fooled with the refresh rate setting. That is one way to prevent aliasing. Many editing softwares also have anti-aliasing functions.
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Dirty Bird Posted at 2017-7-16 10:55
Mavic is fine with 1080x30.  Has aliasing issues at 1080x60.

You can fix that. Make sure the shutter is higher than 1/120 fps. Don't get fooled with the refresh rate setting. That is one way to prevent aliasing. Many editing softwares also have anti-aliasing functions.
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Dirty Bird Posted at 2017-7-16 10:55
Mavic is fine with 1080x30.  Has aliasing issues at 1080x60.

You can fix that. Make sure the shutter is higher than 1/120 fps. Don't get fooled with the refresh rate setting. That is one way to prevent aliasing. Many editing softwares also have anti-aliasing functions.
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Dirty Bird Posted at 2017-7-16 10:55
Mavic is fine with 1080x30.  Has aliasing issues at 1080x60.

You can fix that. Make sure the shutter is higher than 1/120 fps. Don't get fooled with the refresh rate setting. That is one way to prevent aliasing. Many editing softwares also have anti-aliasing functions.
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