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hi DJI
Do the PC ground station, A3 support ?

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DJI company who is not responsive?
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The original PC Ground Station has been discontinued for some time now, it will not work with the A3 or any of the newer flight controllers. There will be a new Ground Station system that will work with the A3 and N3 system when used with the DRTK and Datalink Pro.
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DJI-Jamie Posted at 2016-11-26 05:30
The original PC Ground Station has been discontinued for some time now, it will not work with the A3 ...

Will it work with datalink pro without DRTK and if so when will it be available as a stand alone unit?
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SkySight Aerial Posted at 2016-11-26 15:57
Will it work with datalink pro without DRTK and if so when will it be available as a stand alone un ...

The Datalink Pro does need to DRTK to function when it's trying to process precision GPS data. When you are using DIY crafts and the M600, you would need to have the DRTK with the Datalink Pro in order to use Ground Station.
-Edit- Please note that this has changed, please refer to post #20.
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DJI-Jamie Posted at 2016-11-26 16:18
The Datalink Pro does need to DRTK to function when it's trying to process precision GPS data. Whe ...

Why did you start this beta testing if you are not going to deliver a Groundstation without the need of a DRTK and Datalink Pro ?

https://forum.dji.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=59483
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DJI-Jamie Posted at 2016-11-25 21:30
The original PC Ground Station has been discontinued for some time now, it will not work with the A3 ...

So users must still wait
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Nilsblix Posted at 2016-11-26 19:01
Why did you start this beta testing if you are not going to deliver a Groundstation without the ne ...

DIY units that use the A3 and the N3 would need the DRTK and the Datalink Pro. RTF units, like the Phantom 4, would used the internal hardware in order connect to Ground Station.
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DJI-Jamie Posted at 2016-11-27 07:49
DIY units that use the A3 and the N3 would need the DRTK and the Datalink Pro. RTF units, like the ...

What about the M600 - you ask for beta testers with a M600
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DJI-Jamie Posted at 2016-11-26 08:18
The Datalink Pro does need to DRTK to function when it's trying to process precision GPS data. Whe ...

Hi Jamie,

This is not made clear in the advertising which shows D-RTK, GS and Datalink as separate components, all with compatibility with A3? If they need to be used together then they are not separate components and to say the least, this is very misleading. Why are dealers advertising it as a separate component if it is useless on it's own?
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Hello DJI:

What about ppl that has the A3 with LB2, Can we use the coming Ground station with out the D-RTK?
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DJI-Jamie Posted at 2016-11-26 23:49
DIY units that use the A3 and the N3 would need the DRTK and the Datalink Pro. RTF units, like the ...

Jamie if it's only hardware and the P4 supports it, why wont the hardware be available for A3/LB2?
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Nilsblix Posted at 2016-11-27 17:55
What about the M600 - you ask for beta testers with a M600

Since the M600 uses an A3 flight controller, it would need the RTK and Datalink Pro for Ground Station.
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SkySight Aerial Posted at 2016-11-27 19:32
Hi Jamie,

This is not made clear in the advertising which shows D-RTK, GS and Datalink as separat ...

I do agree that the DJI Website can make this more cut and dry. One can only infer that you cannot use one without the other based on the quick start guides and that they can only be purchased together via the Store section. The DRTK and the Datalink Pro do have specific functions that warrant their own product pages, but they work together in order to provide stability and accuracy that is used for industrial solutions and mapping programs.

I unfortunately cannot speak to how dealers are marketing the RTK and the Datalink Pro. They shouldn't be selling the components separately, unless it's for spare parts purposes.
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AIH Posted at 2016-11-28 02:36
Hello DJI:

What about ppl that has the A3 with LB2, Can we use the coming Ground station with out t ...

You would need to have the RTK with the Datalink Pro in order to use Ground Station with an A2/LB2 DIY combination.
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SkySight Aerial Posted at 2016-11-28 02:51
Jamie if it's only hardware and the P4 supports it, why wont the hardware be available for A3/LB2?

For the P4, I believe that it's built into the center board since you can use the basic waypoint option without any extra components for autonomous flight. At the present time the A3 needed LB2 in order to perform the waypoint function, which meant that it was already hardware dependent. Ground Station will be more advanced than 'waypoints' and needs the beefier hardware for more intricate work. I'm not participating in the P4 Ground Station BETA testing myself, but I would speculate that it's not going to have the exact same functionality as the Pro System rigs.

Just to provide some parallel, the P2 was able to use the old PC Ground Station but it did not nearly have the same functionality as when the program was used with and A2 or a WKM. It didn't have access to photogrammetry or some of the other intricate options that it offered.
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Jamie:

On original a3 with lb2 webpage original promo (6  months ago)  you guys say that ppl that has this combo can use the gs, now you are saying that need RTK combo?

Whats going on with this?
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Hi

Does the LK900 gs can be connected to the can bus port of a DJI A3?

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fansf238540c Posted at 2016-12-5 10:52
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Does the LK900 gs can be connected to the can bus port of a DJI A3?

The LK900 has been a discontinued product for some time. It is not supported by the A3.
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For everyone,

After further digging into this discussion, I have found that the Ground Station program will be connecting to the flight controller itself and not the Datalink itself. So for those of you that do not have the DRTK and Datalink Pro combination, it will not be a conflict for you.

I sincerely apologize for the initial misinformation.
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Great so original publicity keeps.

Jamie, any ETA or aprox release time?, this year?

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DJI-Jamie Posted at 2016-12-13 21:38
For everyone,

After further digging into this discussion, I have found that the Ground Station program will be connecting to the flight controller itself and not the Datalink itself. So for those of you that do not have the DRTK and Datalink Pro combination, it will not be a conflict for you.

That's great news, thanks Jamie.
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SkySight Aerial Posted at 2016-12-14 08:14
That's great news, thanks Jamie.

Also any update on when DL Pro will be available separately and any idea on GS launch?

Thanks
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SkySight Aerial Posted at 2016-12-14 08:24
Also any update on when DL Pro will be available separately and any idea on GS launch?

Thanks

Sorry, I think I miss read that?
Does this mean that for A3 users we will not even need Data Link Pro to connect to Ground Station?
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SkySight Aerial Posted at 2016-12-14 16:29
Sorry, I think I miss read that?
Does this mean that for A3 users we will not even need Data Link Pro to connect to Ground Station?

That's correct. The connection to the Ground Station app will strictly be done via the flight controller when it comes out. So if a stand alone A3 DIY craft or a M600 does not have the RTK/Datalink, then it will still connect. The Datalink Pro still needs to work together with the RTK for precision accuracy, so I still do not see the Datalink as a separate usable component. If it does become a purchasable item, it would most likely be as a spare part for repair purposes.

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Great ty Jamie. Release date? for Xmas as a gift?
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DJI-Jamie Posted at 2016-12-14 18:59
That's correct. The connection to the Ground Station app will strictly be done via the flight controller when it comes out. So if a stand alone A3 DIY craft or a M600 does not have the RTK/Datalink, then it will still connect. The Datalink Pro still needs to work together with the RTK for precision accuracy, so I still do not see the Datalink as a separate usable component. If it does become a purchasable item, it would most likely be as a spare part for repair purposes.

You didn't mention which Christmas!!! (LOL)
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fansf238540c Posted at 2016-12-15 14:05
Great ty Jamie. Release date? for Xmas as a gift?

That, unfortunately I don't have yet.
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SkySight Aerial Posted at 2016-12-15 20:36
You didn't mention which Christmas!!! (LOL)

Ha! Hopefully it stays as singular and not plural for a worst case scenario.
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Hello Jamie: Any news?

Seems that some GS app software sellers already are giving DJI A3 and  LB2 Support (Autopilot version 3.8)

https://autoflightlogic.com/autopilot#system-requirements

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Jamie:

Here you can see more details about it:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ ... &ign-mpt=uo%3D4

What about dji gs software?

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Problem with this software is that it does not recognise the zenmuse z15 GH4 so no video feed and no automated gimbal operation.

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There are applications via SDK that could be used with the A3, but I'm not well versed on SDK and the apps that have been made with it. I would recommend taking a look at the Developer community and you may find something that could work for you. They even have their own Forum for those that are specifically using this function:

https://developer.dji.com/onboard-sdk/
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DJI, did you not think it would have been nice to have a solution available that didn't cost $4,600?
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Hello Jamie

Any update on the GS?

UGCS also is giving support to A3

How it goes with you guys?

Thanks
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fans86bfe82b Posted at 2016-12-22 08:53
DJI, did you not think it would have been nice to have a solution available that didn't cost $4,600?

If you refer to Post #20, I was able to verify that buying the DRTK is not needed. You do not need the DRTK unless you plan on having improved hovering precision and interference reduction.
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fansf238540c Posted at 2016-12-23 04:56
Hello Jamie

Any update on the GS?

There still isn't a release date available for DJI's Ground Station. There are a lot of 3rd party app out there that were generated via the mobile and onboard SDK. The UGCS Ground Station system they provide may be suited if you're looking for something more immediate to use, I just can't really attest to their effectiveness since I have not used these 3rd party apps myself.
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There is a simple bonus with 3rd party solutions based on the sdk. I don't have to dive in with my M600P to test them. I can test on P3P and I1 to make sure they work and get used to the interface. That's what I did w/ Litchi and it worked out well small steps to check before the big leap on the big bird.
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