Remove the 120m height limit in EU
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Henrik Olsen
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Looks like a new version of DJI Fly dropped today (or maybe over the weekend) which implements this.

And DJI have actually included a description of this functionality in the update notification for a change!
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@Henrick Olsen
I am puzzled.
Several times you appear to refer to a height limit of 120m relative to the take off point, yet show a diagram lifted from
ht tps //www.easa.europa.eu/sites/default/files/inline-images/How%20high%20can%20I%20fly%20my%20drone.png  .......... remove the gap between "ht" and "tps".

https://www.easa.europa.eu/sites ... ly%20my%20drone.png

which is demonstrating the "within 120m of the closest ground rule". The latter is, in a mountainous region, especially where there are steep slopes, an entirely different thing.
They are the same thing when flying over a flat plane.

If I am not mistaken, why do you do this?

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Sean-bumble-bee Posted at 10-30 01:31
@Henrick Olsen
I am puzzled.
Several times you appear to refer to a height limit of 120m relative to the take off point, yet show a diagram lifted from

I might have been a bit to fast here, sorry about that - I was not provided mig time to convey the information
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No Original Thought Posted at 10-30 01:29
Looks like a new version of DJI Fly dropped today (or maybe over the weekend) which implements this.

And DJI have actually included a description of this functionality in the update notification for a change!

yes, it's limited to 120m now
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No Original Thought Posted at 10-30 01:29
Looks like a new version of DJI Fly dropped today (or maybe over the weekend) which implements this.

And DJI have actually included a description of this functionality in the update notification for a change!

On android it's v1.12.3 released on 25th October judging by the APK filename.
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The information in the video is misleading.  
C0 is not a category involving the responsibilities of the operator.  C0 is a classification of the drone which allows it to evolve into scenario A1 which indicates the responsibilities of the operator.  

Removing the label from the drone does not make it fall into STS or other specific scenario.  It is simply limited to the A3 scenario.  

You have fallen into the trap of graphs and summary tables which abound on the internet, including on the EASA website.  The only text with legal value is that of the law of each member country of the union.  And these laws mostly refer to texts 2019/945 (technical part) and 2019/947 (operations part).

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32019R0945

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:32019R0947

Be sure to choose the last update date before reading.

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"I'm taking the video down"

Wise decision. Feel free to ask forum members for a review of your videos that talk about legislation before being posted publicly. Sometimes an outside eye isn't too much. In any case I am willing to do it if you deem it necessary. Keep on going.

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LV_Forestry Posted at 10-30 08:42
"I'm taking the video down"

Wise decision. Feel free to ask forum members for a review of your videos that talk about legislation before being posted publicly. Sometimes an outside eye isn't too much. In any case I am willing to do it if you deem it necessary. Keep on going.

Thank you I’ll remember that
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DJI has posted instructions on how to remove the 120m limit.

https://viewpoints.dji.com/blog/dji-mini-series-altitude-limit-eu
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This is distressing on the part of DJI, this article is full of nonsense.

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There are some bugs that are less annoying than others, especially when launching a new product.


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Here A1 would be more appropriate instead of C0
It's sad because point 4 refers to the official text of the law, and point 5 we don't know why they chose a misleading summary when the text is also available.

EUR-Lex - 32019R0947 - EN - EUR-Lex (europa.eu)


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This is false, category A3 remains open.



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This makes no sense.



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Ah! here we have just recovered category A3. For A1 attention, article 20 leaves me perplexed.


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So, regarding this potential C1 label, friendly advice, wait until it is effective before destroying your C0. This will not be the first time that DJI has announced something and then changed its mind.
In my opinion it will be simpler to resell a drone with its C0 label to acquire a C1, rather than trying to sell a drone which no longer has a label.

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I installed the new firmware update on my Mini4 and I am rather disappointed. I expected that the warning would be removed which appears on 100 m height. But nope - I still see this message
My previous Mavic 2 Zoom did not bother me with that stuff. I got a warning if I reach 120 m, and that was OK for me.
Please remove this message or include a checkbox "don't show this message again"!
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Funny to read this after the fact
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LV_Forestry Posted at 10-30 09:46
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So, regarding this potential C1 label, friendly advice, wait until it is effective before destroying your C0. This will not be the first time that DJI has announced something and then changed its mind.

i was close to remove the c0 label, but if i read point 3 of the 4 points right, after janaury 1st, a mini 4pro without a label can only fl in the specific category, which means u cant fly it not at all as before. this would be horror! look what it means to fly in specific category. i fear dji ran a lot of pilots into a even worse desaster by rmeonving the c0 label... specific catgory is so restricitve....
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Nexus Redux Posted at 12-14 08:49
i was close to remove the c0 label, but if i read the 4 points right, after janaury 1st, a minin 4pro without a label can only fl in the specific category, which means u cant fly it at all as before. this would be horror!

This statement is false
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LV_Forestry Posted at 12-14 08:52
This statement is false

are u sure? red the statement and the 4 points u get from dji when u do the removal process, read point 3 - if it is as it stands there, im right...
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Nexus Redux Posted at 12-14 09:11
are u sure? red the statement and the 4 points u get from dji when u do the removal process, read point 3 - if it is as it stands there, im right...

DJI is not the legislator. A1/A2/A3 = open category.

Specific is something else.

EUR-Lex - 02019R0945-20200809 - EN - EUR-Lex (europa.eu)
EUR-Lex - 02019R0947-20220404 - EN - EUR-Lex (europa.eu)
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LV_Forestry Posted at 12-14 09:26
DJI is not the legislator. A1/A2/A3 = open category.

Specific is something else.

i know that it is something else, its far more restricive than anything in the open category. but read poiint 3 on the info given during declassification. if u read it as it stand sthere, mini 4 pros without a label can only be flown int he specific category after 1st of january. that means u need a whole lot of docuemtns and motoions to be allowed to fly
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Nexus Redux Posted at 12-14 09:49
i know that it is something else, its far more restricive than anything in the open category. but read poiint 3 on the info given during declassification. if u read it as it stand sthere, mini 4 pros without a label can only be flown int he specific category after 1st of january. that means u need a whole lot of docuemtns and motoions to be allowed to fly[view_image]

Once again, this statement is false.
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IMHO the mention of only the SPECIFIC category really only applies to drones sold in 2024, when it is already mandatory to put class Cx labels on drones.
And it shouldn't apply to drones bought by the end of this year at the latest, either without labels or officially declassified.
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