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Please enable this DJI.

Specs claim 360º roll ability, now I buy the Ronin 2 and find a +/-30º limit.



2018-3-9
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Hi, Smith. Please shoot a video about the situation for further check. Please tell me the firmware of your Ronin 2. Thanks for your support.
2018-3-9
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DJI Elektra Posted at 2018-3-9 22:45
Hi, Smith. Please shoot a video about the situation for further check. Please tell me the firmware of your Ronin 2. Thanks for your support.

Ah, the roll only works through +-30º on the remote controller. We need more roll ability. At least 90º.

Thanks
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Marty_Smith Posted at 2018-3-9 22:49
Ah, the roll only works through +-30º on the remote controller. We need more roll ability. At least 90º.

Thanks

Firmware updated today.
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Marty_Smith Posted at 2018-3-9 22:49
Firmware updated today.

Smith, its Roll axis control is ±30°. Your requirement will be forwarded. Thanks for your support.
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Marty_Smith Posted at 2018-3-9 22:49
Firmware updated today.

Hi Marty,
Were you ever able to figure out how to do the 360 roll?  I saw it done on a youtube video but in the video, the operator set the gimbal setting to a 360 roll.  But that option was not available on my model and any of the firmware updates.

If you have figured out how to get a 360 roll, please let me know.  I'd like to use the feature asap.
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Hey mate,
Never did. The guy in the video had a pre-prod unit and firmware I think, and the full roll wasn't as easy to manage as they thought.

You can kin of do it though if you hard mount the gimbal 90º to the ground tilt down (away from the pan motor), and spin it on the pan axis... There are a few videos around. I think Cinemilled did one.

Don't know if it'll be enable in the future.
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ash_innovator Posted at 2018-8-4 06:40
Hi Marty,
Were you ever able to figure out how to do the 360 roll?  I saw it done on a youtube video but in the video, the operator set the gimbal setting to a 360 roll.  But that option was not available on my model and any of the firmware updates.

You can rotate the whole gimbal 90 degree so the pan axes (motor) is going to be the roll axes (motor) .... now you can roll away infinitely ;) .... it´s not a fix but a work around ...
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Flo the Pirate Posted at 2018-8-9 11:02
You can rotate the whole gimbal 90 degree so the pan axes (motor) is going to be the roll axes (motor) .... now you can roll away infinitely ;) .... it´s not a fix but a work around ...

Can you tell me how you did this Pirate?

Was this off a dolly at 90degree offset?

It’s pretty obvious DJI has changed some things to not allow this bc it could hurt the motors but wish they were more honest about it. Doing 360 degree rolls are crucial for creative purposes and it’s a must if you own the Master Wheels with a 3rd axis - I want to know!

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LUMINARIO Posted at 2018-9-9 12:53
Can you tell me how you did this Pirate?

Was this off a dolly at 90degree offset?

You could do it mounted like you said on a dolly or with an easy rig and only the top half of the ronin ring installed .... doing it handheld you need to be very strong ;) or have two people hold half the ring on both sides.

Still we would love to use the normal roll axe !
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Flo the Pirate Posted at 2018-8-9 11:02
You can rotate the whole gimbal 90 degree so the pan axes (motor) is going to be the roll axes (motor) .... now you can roll away infinitely ;) .... it´s not a fix but a work around ...

can you please post a video? thanks Pirate!
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LUMINARIO Posted at 2018-9-16 23:33
can you please post a video? thanks Pirate!




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LUMINARIO Posted at 2018-9-16 23:33
can you please post a video? thanks Pirate!

sorry about the bad quality video ;) but I think everything is clear now ?

also note it´s good to have a second operator who uses the joystick for roll ;)
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LUMINARIO Posted at 2018-9-16 23:33
can you please post a video? thanks Pirate!

another note : you really want to have the lens center lining up with the roll motor center what makes balancing more difficult ... but it´s possible
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Flo the Pirate Posted at 2018-9-17 08:37
https://vimeo.com/290317596

all good!! thank you so much for that Pirate - im gonna try and do my own test
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Flo the Pirate Posted at 2018-9-17 08:37
https://vimeo.com/290317596

how many revolutions could it do? thx!
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LUMINARIO Posted at 2018-9-17 13:55
how many revolutions could it do? thx!

endless ... you can spin away to infinity ;)
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Flo the Pirate Posted at 2018-8-9 11:02
You can rotate the whole gimbal 90 degree so the pan axes (motor) is going to be the roll axes (motor) .... now you can roll away infinitely ;) .... it´s not a fix but a work around ...

Is this still the best way to do this kind of shot? Any one know if they have fixed this with firmware yet?
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fans490ec455 Posted at 2018-9-26 11:39
Is this still the best way to do this kind of shot? Any one know if they have fixed this with firmware yet?

as far is i know this is the only possibility .... i heard that they are not planning to implement this with software as it might be impossible for some reason ... not sure
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Flo the Pirate Posted at 9-28 05:31
as far is i know this is the only possibility .... i heard that they are not planning to implement this with software as it might be impossible for some reason ... not sure

Flo the Pirate I tried to send you an PM but DJI Forum seems to delete it straight away.
I explain quick in German:
Wir wollen mit dem  Ronin 2 360 rollen und haben es wie du beschrieben hast 90 grad gedreht und den unteren Ring entfernt. aber wir sind nicht über die 30 grad weg gekommen. haben es genau so gemacht, wie du. sorry dass ich dich damit so belästige, aber wir suchen dringend nach einer guten und soliden Lösung die auch funktioniert.
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ManiAVP Posted at 11-26 08:29
Flo the Pirate I tried to send you an PM but DJI Forum seems to delete it straight away.
I explain quick in German:
Wir wollen mit dem  Ronin 2 360 rollen und haben es wie du beschrieben hast 90 grad gedreht und den unteren Ring entfernt. aber wir sind nicht über die 30 grad weg gekommen. haben es genau so gemacht, wie du. sorry dass ich dich damit so belästige, aber wir suchen dringend nach einer guten und soliden Lösung die auch funktioniert.

ich hab dir unsere alte / erste DM nochmal geschickt .... siehst du die jetzt ?
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Flo the Pirate Posted at 11-26 09:16
ich hab dir unsere alte / erste DM nochmal geschickt .... siehst du die jetzt ?

Ich sehe nur einen Teil und kann nicht antworten... Wäre es mögich mir eine Mail zu machen? Könntest mir deine Email per PM senden? Dann schreibe ich dir da. Mein Geschriebenes löscht es in der PM sofort wieder. Soooo armselig...
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ManiAVP Posted at 11-26 23:16
Ich sehe nur einen Teil und kann nicht antworten... Wäre es mögich mir eine Mail zu machen? Könntest mir deine Email per PM senden? Dann schreibe ich dir da. Mein Geschriebenes löscht es in der PM sofort wieder. Soooo armselig...

just PMed you
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To do the 360 roll on Ronin 2 by using the pan axes its important to switch the ronin 2 controller to FOLLOW - on FREE it´s not working !
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Flo the Pirate Posted at 2018-8-9 11:02
You can rotate the whole gimbal 90 degree so the pan axes (motor) is going to be the roll axes (motor) .... now you can roll away infinitely ;) .... it´s not a fix but a work around ...

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Flo the Pirate Posted at 2018-8-9 11:02
You can rotate the whole gimbal 90 degree so the pan axes (motor) is going to be the roll axes (motor) .... now you can roll away infinitely ;) .... it´s not a fix but a work around ...

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Flo the Pirate Posted at 2018-12-4 02:31
To do the 360 roll on Ronin 2 by using the pan axes its important to switch the ronin 2 controller to FOLLOW - on FREE it´s not working !

Dear Flo the pirate.

I am currently shooting with a ronin 2 Sony Venice and hawk mini. We want to shoot 360 but I can‘t get the ronin running ö. Seems the motors are not strong enough. Can you please send me a link how to balance it? Thank you so much
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Flo the Pirate Posted at 2018-12-4 02:31
To do the 360 roll on Ronin 2 by using the pan axes its important to switch the ronin 2 controller to FOLLOW - on FREE it´s not working !

Dear Flo the pirate.

I am currently shooting with a ronin 2 Sony Venice and hawk mini. We want to shoot 360 but I can‘t get the ronin running ö. Seems the motors are not strong enough. Can you please send me a link how to balance it? Thank you so much
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u need to apply all balancing rules that apply to any gimbal

this video is in depth ronin 2 and i think it has a section that does explain balancing ...
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looks like the link i posted got deleted ??? @dji ???
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djiuser_tpXse0Fa6UVR Posted at 7-17 12:39
Dear Flo the pirate.

I am currently shooting with a ronin 2 Sony Venice and hawk mini. We want to shoot 360 but I can‘t get the ronin running ö. Seems the motors are not strong enough. Can you please send me a link how to balance it? Thank you so much




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Flo the Pirate Posted at 2018-9-17 08:45
sorry about the bad quality video ;) but I think everything is clear now ?

also note it´s good to have a second operator who uses the joystick for roll ;)

Hi Pirate, have you change anything in the menu to do this?
I try to use the gimbal like that to make a 360 shot but the new roll axis make by the normal pan axis take the 30 degree limit of the traditional roll axis.
Thx for answer.
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Ohnimaco Posted at 8-18 09:12
Hi Pirate, have you change anything in the menu to do this?
I try to use the gimbal like that to make a 360 shot but the new roll axis make by the normal pan axis take the 30 degree limit of the traditional roll axis.
Thx for answer.

Ok I find my answer: To put the gimbal at 90 degree and use the pan as a roll to infinity only work in the tripod mode. Not in car/gimbal/aerial mode.
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Ohnimaco Posted at 8-18 09:35
Ok I find my answer: To put the gimbal at 90 degree and use the pan as a roll to infinity only work in the tripod mode. Not in car/gimbal/aerial mode.

thanx for reporting this for people looking for this in the future
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HI, so what they don't say in the firmware update is that this only works in "flashlight mode"  if you put the remote in free mode then rotate the gimbal so that the feet and the lens line up, you can then use the roll knob on the controler to spin the camera using the pan motor as a roll motor. This is a bit missleading on their part, but it is the only way currently to roll 360 continuoulsy.
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