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The Bitless
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Now I have to take a driving license for my Mavic Mini.
It failed the C2 test in Sweden.
- DJI, how important is weight then?
New rules in Sweden on July 1, 2020

Here are the questions issued by the Swedish authorities:
1. Are you an individual or representative of an organization?
individual
representative of an organization

2. How old are you?
Younger than 16 years
16 to 17 years
18 years or older

3. Are you an operator?
The operator is responsible for how the drone is used.
yes
No

4. Are you a remote pilot?
The person who controls and controls the drone is a remote pilot.
yes
no

5. Are you going to fly over a group of people who have not approved it?
This is subject to a permit, is chargeable and requires further education.
yes
no

6. Are you planning to fly out of sight?
The drone is out of sight if you can no longer see it with the naked eye without aids. This is subject to a permit, is chargeable and requires further education.
yes
no

7. Are you planning to fly higher than 120 meters?
The distance is calculated 120 meters from the nearest point on the ground directly below the drone. This is subject to a permit, is chargeable and requires further education.
yes
no

8. Is the drone privately built?
The drone is privately built if you built it completely yourself, if you modified it or if it is not built according to the kit instructions.
yes
no

9. Which class does the drone belong to?
When you buy the drone, the packaging is marked with which C-class it belongs.
C0
C1
C2
C3
C4
I do not know



Here are my answers to the test:
What applies to you and your drone?
You are responsible for a drone that requires operator registration

Your drone and scheduled flight belong
Category Open - Subcategory A2 or A3
Educate yourself and take the current drone card







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WrongWay Feldman
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What's a C2 test and how did it fail?
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Bezik
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I thought the mini was c0 class as its under 250g,why did you answer it was class c2?
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Renato61
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No driving licence is need for MM.
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itchyeyeballs
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It says C2 on my box

This link https://www.heliguy.com/blog/201 ... -uk-in-summer-2020/

says:
C0 "Are unable to be flown more than 120m (400ft) from the controlling device."
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sbonev
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it cannot say C2 on the box. There are no UA class markings on the mini...According to you mini is less than 4 kg and bigger than 900 gr??? Are you sure you read the table correctly?...if you look closely at the table you will see all drones less than 250 gr are C0.
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sbonev Posted at 5-11 01:03
it cannot say C2 on the box. There are no UA class markings on the mini...According to you mini is less than 4 kg and bigger than 900 gr??? Are you sure you read the table correctly?...if you look closely at the table you will see all drones less than 250 gr are C0.

To be honest, I am a bit confused with this table. Is Mini C0 (toy) or C0 (not toy)? Because the opinions about Mini varied in that matter ;-)

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ThalisGr Posted at 5-11 01:13
To be honest, I am a bit confused with this table. Is Mini C0 (toy) or C0 (not toy)? Because the opinions about Mini varied in that matter ;-)

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But after a more careful reading, Mini will be a Legacy drone after July 2022, so the whole conversation is quite theoritical. 2 years is long time for todays world :-)
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The drone has to be classified at time of manufacture so will be legacy when the rule comes in, however DJI could realease a new model with classification but it won't apply retrospectively to any already sold.
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sbonev Posted at 5-11 01:03
it cannot say C2 on the box. There are no UA class markings on the mini...According to you mini is less than 4 kg and bigger than 900 gr??? Are you sure you read the table correctly?...if you look closely at the table you will see all drones less than 250 gr are C0.



Maybe a different C2 but that's what it says on mine
Edit - if you read the table 'and my post' you will see it talks about max distance from controller, not just weight
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The big question for me is if I am able to go on holiday somewhere in EU in 18 months time can I just chuck the mini in my suitcase or should I worry about getting stopped and questioned about registration in the country I land in?
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itchyeyeballs Posted at 5-11 02:16
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Maybe a different C2 but that's what it says on mine

this has nothing to do with the UA class. Here is a link how the class marking should look like. In any way it cannot be C2 as it is below 250 gr.

https://wpo-altertechnology.com/ce-mark-for-drones/
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The Bitless
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Bezik Posted at 5-11 00:07
I thought the mini was c0 class as its under 250g,why did you answer it was class c2?

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Logo for C0
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And C2 would be a round 2 and not C2, like it is on the package..

https://wpo-altertechnology.com/ce-mark-for-drones/
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raven swe
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you need a driving licence to fly a drone in Sweden, that's a new one on me
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The answer is in the EU you will have to register your Mavic Mini after july 1st. 2020.
The reasoning is NOT weight, but the fact that the Mavic Mini has a camera on board that can record video, and therefore may violate  privacy of other people.
In Europe you therefore need to take an online test and pass the test.
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GregT. Posted at 5-11 08:17
The answer is in the EU you will have to register your Mavic Mini after july 1st. 2020.
The reasoning is NOT weight, but the fact that the Mavic Mini has a camera on board that can record video, and therefore may violate  privacy of other people.
In Europe you therefore need to take an online test and pass the test.

If I'm not mistaken, the test is necessary if the drone exceeds 250 grams.
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GregT. Posted at 5-11 08:17
The answer is in the EU you will have to register your Mavic Mini after july 1st. 2020.
The reasoning is NOT weight, but the fact that the Mavic Mini has a camera on board that can record video, and therefore may violate  privacy of other people.
In Europe you therefore need to take an online test and pass the test.

Didnt that got postponed because of Corona?
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I am not sure if it got postponed or not. The official website still states the new rules are going to be enforced on july 1st.

https://www.easa.europa.eu/easa-and-you/civil-drones-rpas

The rules states:

Registration of UAS operators & certified drones becomes mandatory.  
Starting from 1st July 2020 all drone operators shall register themselves before using a drone:
* in the ‘Open’ category, with a weight
- more than 250g

OR
- less then 250g when it is not a toy AND it is equipped with a sensor able to capture personal data

I believe the Mavic Mini is going to be put into the C0 (not a toy) category

This would mean registering your drone, taking an online test, pass the test - know the rules and fly.
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There are currently no EASA certified drones on the market.
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What is unclear is if a C0 with camera needs online testing, or just registration. C1 will need both.
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raven swe Posted at 5-11 07:08
you need a driving licence to fly a drone in Sweden, that's a new one on me

Test the guide right here:
https://dronarsidan.transportstyrelsen.se/guide
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raven swe
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its not a driving license, driving license is for car, you don't drive a drone, you fly a drone so maybe call it a license to fly or whatever
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GregT. Posted at 5-11 23:05
I am not sure if it got postponed or not. The official website still states the new rules are going to be enforced on july 1st.

https://www.easa.europa.eu/easa-and-you/civil-drones-rpas

Some politicans had the idea to postpone it to January 2021. But the Austrian drone sites point out, that in June we will know for sure what is happening (1. July 2020 or January 2021).

I talked with some higher drone guys in Austria (for the insurance about Mavic Mini) and it should be an easy thing, when the EU has finally done it..
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