Is it true that ALL Mavic Air 2S models regardless of region now have ADS-B? I see the same shop where I bought my MA2 which is a 3W model and has all the necessary hardware for ADS-B to work only to be locked out of this feature by the DJI FLY app and bureaucratic BS 10 months ago, is now advertising the MA2S as having ADS-B. What kind of a joke is this DJI?

Yes,  they all have Airsense now.

DAFlys Posted at 6-21 06:55
Yes,  they all have Airsense now.

So we were lied to? DJI’s story was it had to do with regions??

I’ll tell you what happened here. With them running out of chips early last year they now have a couple of 1000 early model Euro MA2’s with no ADS-B hardware and a couple of thousand units with the hardware.

So instead of unlocking the feature for MA2 euro versions and dealing with a couple thousand p’d off MA2 users that have drones missing “hardware” they paid for and potentially getting dragged to the courts with a class action lawsuit, they disable feature for all Euro MA2’s, bring forward the MA2S launch which effectively hides the blunder under the guise of a “new model”.

Think I’ll investigate a little further. Don’t like getting lied too worse yet paying for hardware I don’t get to use to its full extent. Corporate greed in action right here people.

PAYBACK Posted at 6-21 07:22
So we were lied to? DJI’s story was it had to do with regions??

I’ll tell you what happened here. With them running out of chips early last year they now have a couple of 1000 early model Euro MA2’s with no ADS-B hardware and a couple of thousand units with the hardware.

You'd think that they would just activate it for anyone with the hardware, instead they disabled it for anyone who had the hardware that wasn't in the USA,  so a USA person traveling to EU would loose the feature. which is not what they said initially.   On the flip side the people that imported theirs from America wasted their money.

DAFlys Posted at 6-21 10:00
You'd think that they would just activate it for anyone with the hardware, instead they disabled it for anyone who had the hardware that wasn't in the USA,  so a USA person traveling to EU would loose the feature. which is not what they said initially.   On the flip side the people that imported theirs from America wasted their money.

Yeah who knows how they think. It’s BS if you ask me. Watch this space.

PAYBACK Posted at 6-21 10:22
Yeah who knows how they think. It’s BS if you ask me. Watch this space.

Lol.  And then there’s all the in equality of the sdk rollout.

Hi there. Thank you for reaching out. Currently, only the Mavic Air 2 aircraft released in the United States/Canada have a built-in ADS-B system. We are sorry that the ADS-B function is not available for the aircraft sold in other regions. Please stay tuned to DJI's official website for more information in the future, or leave your mailbox. we will notify you by email once we have received any notifications. Thank you for your understanding and support!

Sorry Paladin but please spare me the cut and paste reply. Read the topic and respond.

PAYBACK Posted at 6-21 20:05
Sorry Paladin but please spare me the cut and paste reply. Read the topic and respond.

I will respond for him. The ADS-B reception capability is no use to you unless your country has put regulations into place for airspace and aircraft to be mandatory.. Even in the US, the uptake is only about 38% for aircraft that are flying in ADS-B Out mandated airspace. It is not a universal system.

You appear to be in South Africa, so the rules there are that all IFR aircraft must carry ADS-B Out equipment post 2020, ADS-B In is optional. Note the VFR aircraft do not need to be equipped under the current regulations, and VFR aircraft are the majority of light aircraft.

Geebax Posted at 6-21 20:42
I will respond for him. The ADS-B reception capability is no use to you unless your country has put regulations into place for airspace and aircraft to be mandatory.. Even in the US, the uptake is only about 38% for aircraft that are flying in ADS-B Out mandated airspace. It is not a universal system.

You appear to be in South Africa, so the rules there are that all IFR aircraft must carry ADS-B Out equipment post 2020, ADS-B In is optional. Note the VFR aircraft do not need to be equipped under the current regulations, and VFR aircraft are the majority of light aircraft.

Its not far to say that is no use to him,  if it can spot 30% of aircraft thats still better than none,  and quite a few of the aircraft that fly low like police/ambulance helicopters have adopted it.

DAFlys Posted at 6-21 11:46
Lol.  And then there’s all the in equality of the sdk rollout.

The lack of SDK for MA2 is definitely a negative.  What the heck was DJI thinking when they made this dumb decision?

Geebax Posted at 6-21 20:42
I will respond for him. The ADS-B reception capability is no use to you unless your country has put regulations into place for airspace and aircraft to be mandatory.. Even in the US, the uptake is only about 38% for aircraft that are flying in ADS-B Out mandated airspace. It is not a universal system.

You appear to be in South Africa, so the rules there are that all IFR aircraft must carry ADS-B Out equipment post 2020, ADS-B In is optional. Note the VFR aircraft do not need to be equipped under the current regulations, and VFR aircraft are the majority of light aircraft.

Hi Geebax, as I pointed out in thread March already ( https://forum.dji.com/forum.php? ... 923&pid=2430511) and you have mentioned South Africa is ADS-B ready and it WILL become compulsory after a period of time. My argument it the hardware I paid for does have the capability to receive ADS-B signals and my Country's is setup for it. I paid for the feature I would like to use it.

Why must I be disadvantaged because of uncertainty as to how ADS-B is implemented in Europe?

PAYBACK Posted at 6-22 04:51
Hi Geebax, as I pointed out in thread March already ( https://forum.dji.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=236923&pid=2430511) and you have mentioned South Africa is ADS-B ready and it WILL become compulsory after a period of time. My argument it the hardware I paid for does have the capability to receive ADS-B signals and my Country's is setup for it. I paid for the feature I would like to use it.

Why must I be disadvantaged because of uncertainty as to how ADS-B is implemented in Europe?

What if South Africa decides to implement ADS-B on a different radio frequency to the US one?

DowntownRDB Posted at 6-22 04:16
The lack of SDK for MA2 is definitely a negative.  What the heck was DJI thinking when they made this dumb decision?

I suspect its hurting sales of the better models as you could buy a cheaper drone and then add the features you dont get via third party apps.

Geebax Posted at 6-22 21:23
What if South Africa decides to implement ADS-B on a different radio frequency to the US one?

We (South Africa) use 1090Mhz. US uses 978 or 1090MHz what is your point?  

DAFlys Posted at 6-22 23:17
I suspect its hurting sales of the better models as you could buy a cheaper drone and then add the features you dont get via third party apps.

Unfortunately this is true about hurting sales.   I'm sure Litchi and others used the SDKs to full advantage.   

DowntownRDB Posted at 6-23 04:48
Unfortunately this is true about hurting sales.   I'm sure Litchi and others used the SDKs to full advantage.

And they are still yet to fix the sdk for the original Air 2 which is really unstable by some accounts.

PAYBACK Posted at 6-23 01:40
We (South Africa) use 1090Mhz. US uses 978 or 1090MHz what is your point?

Never mind, I can see you are too confrontational for a rational discussion. I don't engage with hot-heads.

Geebax Posted at 6-23 18:53
Never mind, I can see you are too confrontational for a rational discussion. I don't engage with hot-heads.

lol ok guy. You tried to be a hero and “answer” my question on behalf of DJI but when I counter you bring up some nonsensical “what if” scenario that has zero bearing on my original question. I’m not here fir DJI brownie points even though I have been using their products since before they went mainstream and will continue to do so.

DAFlys Posted at 6-23 09:39
And they are still yet to fix the sdk for the original Air 2 which is really unstable by some accounts.

Not sure what is up with DJI's software development team.  SDK fix shouldn't be that hard to do.

PAYBACK Posted at 6-22 04:51
Hi Geebax, as I pointed out in thread March already ( https://forum.dji.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=236923&pid=2430511) and you have mentioned South Africa is ADS-B ready and it WILL become compulsory after a period of time. My argument it the hardware I paid for does have the capability to receive ADS-B signals and my Country's is setup for it. I paid for the feature I would like to use it.

Why must I be disadvantaged because of uncertainty as to how ADS-B is implemented in Europe?

Why must I be disadvantaged because of uncertainty as to how ADS-B is implemented in Europe?
Why must you be disadvantaged by not having a useless "feature" that just gives false alarms and promotes a false sense of security?
The thing you are yammering on about is nowhere near as useful as you imagine.

Labroides Posted at 6-24 19:27
Why must I be disadvantaged because of uncertainty as to how ADS-B is implemented in Europe?
Why must you be disadvantaged by not having a useless "feature" that just gives false alarms and promotes a false sense of security?
The thing you are yammering on about is nowhere near as useful as you imagine.

I’ll decide that for myself thank you very much.

PAYBACK Posted at 6-24 20:43
I’ll decide that for myself thank you very much.

Of course you will.
I wouldn't expect someone like you to take advice from anyone else.

DowntownRDB Posted at 6-24 15:33
Not sure what is up with DJI's software development team.  SDK fix shouldn't be that hard to do.

I know,  right.