DJI MAVIC 3 FIRST FLIGHT and REVIEW

Looks good

Montfrooij Posted at 11-9 04:59
Looks good

It should have spread those props though.

Great find DA.  No doubt, Mavic 3 is a beast.  Will probably be even better when/if the firmware updates happen.  

DowntownRDB Posted at 11-9 05:13
Great find DA.  No doubt, Mavic 3 is a beast.  Will probably be even better when/if the firmware updates happen.

It certainly does.  Except in EU they are not selling any accessories for it like the 4g dongle, wide angle Len’s or prop guards.  

DAFlys Posted at 11-9 05:11
It should have spread those props though.

Many people forget about that.

Montfrooij Posted at 11-9 08:44
Many people forget about that.

I hate the wobble you get if you dont.

Just seen an interesting video about Mavic 3 and DJI talking about the classification.  Not looking good.

DAFlys Posted at 11-9 09:53
I hate the wobble you get if you dont.

Just seen an interesting video about Mavic 3 and DJI talking about the classification.  Not looking good.

Me too. Saw a video once about the strain it puts on the arms (if you don't)
Ok ok, what was the conclusion?

Montfrooij Posted at 11-9 10:43
Me too. Saw a video once about the strain it puts on the arms (if you don't)
Ok ok, what was the conclusion?

DJI said the rules are not finalised so they cant classify yet.  Which seems odd as the rules came into affect in January.

DAFlys Posted at 11-10 00:54
DJI said the rules are not finalised so they cant classify yet.  Which seems odd as the rules came into affect in January.

That is my understanding too.
There was an interesting article about this on a Dutch drone site.
The rules themselves are there, but the conversion to technical requirements is not.

They also made it very clear, retrospective classification is not possible.
The CE label is part of the product. So you can't put a new label on an existing product.
That effectively means introducing a new (the same) drone for the new classification.
It can be done, but it must be a new product (at least for the Cx label), which is an expensive procedure.

DAFlys Posted at 11-9 05:14
It certainly does.  Except in EU they are not selling any accessories for it like the 4g dongle, wide angle Len’s or prop guards.

Is that because of something learned from their advisory liaison with EASA officials about forthcoming rule changes?  

DowntownRDB Posted at 11-10 02:59
Is that because of something learned from their advisory liaison with EASA officials about forthcoming rule changes?

For classification they dont go by weight, they go by MTOM - Maximum Take Off Mass,  there is some debate if thats done like plan where they have a certified weight,  or whether its the physical point at which point it cannot take off.   

DAFlys Posted at 11-10 04:42
For classification they dont go by weight, they go by MTOM - Maximum Take Off Mass,  there is some debate if thats done like plan where they have a certified weight,  or whether its the physical point at which point it cannot take off.

It will be very interesting to see how all that eventually works out.  

DowntownRDB Posted at 11-11 02:25
It will be very interesting to see how all that eventually works out.

Yes,   there is much debate over MtoM.

DAFlys Posted at 11-11 02:34
Yes,   there is much debate over MtoM.

It just can't be that much to debate over.  Surely they have better things to do.  

DowntownRDB Posted at 11-11 03:11
It just can't be that much to debate over.  Surely they have better things to do.

No there is much debate between consumers about MTOM ,   EASA haven't really issued a definitive description.

DAFlys Posted at 11-11 03:49
No there is much debate between consumers about MTOM ,   EASA haven't really issued a definitive description.

Does EASA have a target date set yet?  

On a separate note I saw yesterday where a major FPV consortium has brought a lawsuit against the FAA over the RemoteID rule.  Will be interesting to see how this works out, especially since this group has had 2 previous successful lawsuits regarding the FAA.  

DowntownRDB Posted at 11-12 04:08
Does EASA have a target date set yet?  

On a separate note I saw yesterday where a major FPV consortium has brought a lawsuit against the FAA over the RemoteID rule.  Will be interesting to see how this works out, especially since this group has had 2 previous successful lawsuits regarding the FAA.

Yes.  The rules came in January this year.  The end of the transition is the end of 2022.

DowntownRDB Posted at 11-12 04:08
Does EASA have a target date set yet?  

On a separate note I saw yesterday where a major FPV consortium has brought a lawsuit against the FAA over the RemoteID rule.  Will be interesting to see how this works out, especially since this group has had 2 previous successful lawsuits regarding the FAA.

Ooh.  A challenge to remote ID, that will be interesting as I’m sure once you implement that we will be next.

DAFlys Posted at 11-12 04:16
Yes.  The rules came in January this year.  The end of the transition is the end of 2022.

Dang, just over 13 months before transition ends.  Not a lot of time to get any additional rule changes done.  

DAFlys Posted at 11-12 04:17
Ooh.  A challenge to remote ID, that will be interesting as I’m sure once you implement that we will be next.

Case is on court docket for February 2022 so we do have a short wait to see how this plays out.  The majority of the case deals with privacy issues.  Law enforcement is trying to use drone footage as evidence in an upcoming trial but the legality of it's use without a prior warrant is being questioned.  

DowntownRDB Posted at 11-13 03:22
Case is on court docket for February 2022 so we do have a short wait to see how this plays out.  The majority of the case deals with privacy issues.  Law enforcement is trying to use drone footage as evidence in an upcoming trial but the legality of it's use without a prior warrant is being questioned.

Didn’t they use some in the kyle Ritten case.

DowntownRDB Posted at 11-13 03:20
Dang, just over 13 months before transition ends.  Not a lot of time to get any additional rule changes done.

And there’s much confusion.  EASA says it’s finalised but DJI say it’s not.

DAFlys Posted at 11-13 07:13
Didn’t they use some in the kyle Ritten case.

I believe they did but not sure if it was obtained via a warrant or not.  


You can read about the recently filed case here or here.

DAFlys Posted at 11-13 07:14
And there’s much confusion.  EASA says it’s finalised but DJI say it’s not.

That makes things even more interesting.  Let's see how this turns out.

DowntownRDB Posted at 11-14 03:38
That makes things even more interesting.  Let's see how this turns out.

Its like the manufactures are trying to force the transition period to be extended.

DowntownRDB Posted at 11-14 03:34
I believe they did but not sure if it was obtained via a warrant or not.  

Cheers.  thats a lot of companies getting on board,  but man is that expensive to go to court in the USA.

Cool shots

Traper50 Posted at 11-14 06:08
Cool shots

He sure got some nice shots Traper50.  

DAFlys Posted at 11-14 03:59
Its like the manufactures are trying to force the transition period to be extended.

That could well be their reason behind their statement.

DAFlys Posted at 11-14 04:01
Cheers.  thats a lot of companies getting on board,  but man is that expensive to go to court in the USA.

That is one of the reasons that there are so many lawyers in the USA.  The only real winners in a court case are the lawyers.  

Have you seen this lawyer joke?

A lawyer, doctor and priest were on an airplane over the ocean. The plane
went down and the only survivors were those three. They started swimming
towards an island when sharks appeared. SNAP!!! The doctor was eaten.
SNAP!!! The priest was eaten. The lawyer made it to the island, and was
later picked up and returned to port. The press asked him why the sharks
ate the other two and not him. He replied, "Professional courtesy."

DowntownRDB Posted at 11-15 03:21
That is one of the reasons that there are so many lawyers in the USA.  The only real winners in a court case are the lawyers.  

Have you seen this lawyer joke?

ROTFL,    brilliant.   

DAFlys Posted at 11-15 04:44
ROTFL,    brilliant.

I thought you might enjoy that joke.  

DowntownRDB Posted at 11-17 03:48
I thought you might enjoy that joke.

I did,   I will share that with someone.

DAFlys Posted at 11-17 04:17
I did,   I will share that with someone.

    Good for you.