How Discrete is your Drone Flying with RID Drone Tracking App?
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LoudThunder
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On another Web Site that I am active on, a member posted a topic where they asked what would happen if they installed a Separate RID Broadcast Module on their RID enabled Drone and this is my reply.  You might be interested to find out exactly how much Flight Telemetry a person using a RID Drone Tracking App on their Smartphone would receive.
  
  
If you have a RID enabled Drone that transmits the FAA's required signal specifications, it transmits: the Drone's ID (Serial Number?), the Drone's location and altitude, the Drone's velocity, the Control Station location and elevation (Your location whether you move about or not, because your controller "talks" to the drone where it is…), the Drone's Time mark (Flight Time?), and any Emergency Status (low battery warnings, weak signals, strong winds, etc…)
  
  
If you add a Broadcast Module, it will also transmit at the same time.  However, since it is not electronically connected to the Drone or the Controller, it can only broadcast information relative to itself.  
  
  
The Module broadcast the following information:  the Drone's ID (something you would have to program into), the Drone's location and altitude (actually the Modules location and altitude…), the Drone's velocity (again, the Module's speed), the Takeoff location and elevation (where it was located when turned), and the Time mark (how long it has been turned on…
  
  
I have provided a Screen Grab of one of these Apps reading the Broadcast signal from an Add-On Module, the DroneTag Add-on Module:
  
    
  
These Apps are capable of decimating the signals from multiple Drones.  Note that it shows the Map, the Flight Path, the Takeoff Location, and the Telemetry is recorded with altitude, speed, location, distance from controller, and so much more… And the Module will transmit information that information for up to 1.5 km or almost a mile…
  
  
This App allows all this information to downloaded as a CSV File and this information can then be provided as definitive proof of your flights to the FAA if you are flying where you should not, flying without an authorization or waiver, beyond Visual Line of Sight, etc…
  
  
So, if you have a drone vigilante who takes an undue interest in your flights, perhaps in your neighborhood, a local park, etc…  they might just save a batch of your flights and submit all of them to the FAA to cause you trouble.
  
  

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Thats all we need.   
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Thanks for sharing this information.  
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LoudThunder
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This is a Follow-Up to the Original Posting....

Based on several questions and observations made by some of the members of the various web sites that I have posted this information on, I have some follow-up information…

The Remote Broadcast Module must be tamper resistant, meaning the Identification Number assigned to the unit cannot be changed.   The Identification Number will be assigned by the manufacturer.  

Next, if your Drone is a Non-Compliant Unmanned Aircraft (no built in RID…) and you are required to use a Remote Broadcast Module due to the drone's weight (for Rec Pilots…) or the drone (all weights…) is used in a Part 107 Operation, then you will be required to go into your FAADroneZone Account and edit the Drone's Identification Number (usually the Serial Number…) and change it to the Remote Broadcast Module Identification Number.

For more information, please see the 470-Page FAA Final Rule…

https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.go ... teID_Final_Rule.pdf

or a more condensed, and readable version put out by the FPV Freedom Coalition…

https://fpvfc.org/remote-id-fina ... fooaEAaAoReEALw_wcB


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LoudThunder Posted at 1-27 18:00
This is a Follow-Up to the Original Posting....

Based on several questions and observations made by some of the members of the various web sites that I have posted this information on, I have some follow-up information…

Thanks for the additional heads up.  
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Hi, this is Jan from Dronetag - You have attached a link to our website – and yes, we do offer a solution in the form of a Module to be attached to any drone. All the data readable by public users are in line with the FAA and EASA rules. I know Remote ID is controversial, but as we stated many times, we at Dronetag did not came up with the regulations, we are just offering a solution for pilots to be compliant.
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LoudThunder
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jan.jirousek Posted at 2-2 07:11
Hi, this is Jan from Dronetag - You have attached a link to our website – and yes, we do offer a solution in the form of a Module to be attached to any drone. All the data readable by public users are in line with the FAA and EASA rules. I know Remote ID is controversial, but as we stated many times, we at Dronetag did not came up with the regulations, we are just offering a solution for pilots to be compliant.

Jan,

Thanks for contacting me.  As you will note, I did not wrote anything derogatory concerning your App or your Module,  I only reported on their capability.  Many of the readers were not aware of just how sophisticated your App is and that it is capable of providing a plethora of information, most of which we did not realize we were sending out…

I am not against the RID, but I do not believe that it should be sending out the location of the control station.  Granted, your Module does not, only it's original launch location.  But as many Drone Pilots have noted, they have been assaulted by "homespun, self-appointed vigilantes" who have little if any knowledge of the rules or laws.

We know your company is not the one driving this "Train."  Your company is just like us, a passenger on this train headed into a very unpredictable future with the RID issue.

LT


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LoudThunder Posted at 2-2 21:19
Jan,

Thanks for contacting me.  As you will note, I did not wrote anything derogatory concerning your App or your Module,  I only reported on their capability.  Many of the readers were not aware of just how sophisticated your App is and that it is capable of providing a plethora of information, most of which we did not realize we were sending out…

I appreciate your response and didn't want to give the impression that I thought you were attacking us. Precisely because Remote ID is controversial, we also struggle with many approaches and are often targeted, so I just wanted to point out that we are not regulation makers.

I understand the concerns of pilots and do not want to downplay some of the side effects of this regulation - however we believe that the primary benefit for society as a whole is increased safety. With the coming boom in industrial applications of drones, it is only fitting that their implementation into the airspace be regulated. And yes, it will impact one or more groups of pilots, and the regulation may have some measures that don't suit everyone, but I think I'm just reiterating something we both understand.

Jan
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