13 Things to Know - AIR 2S to DJI AIR 3

Nice find DA. Really nice and non-biased comparison video.  

DowntownRDB Posted at 7-27 14:11
Nice find DA.  Really nice and non-biased comparison video.

I hadnt realised just how much bigger it was until I watched that video.

Great video.
I just finished watching it and for my use, aside from the longer flight time, the Air 2S suits my needs and isn't worth upgrading to.

DAFlys Posted at 7-28 02:31
I hadnt realised just how much bigger it was until I watched that video.

The arms are a lot thinner and longer.  Also a bit of a difference in overall weight which is probably attributed to the larger camera and larger battery.  I do like that it is a rear loading battery and hopefully they changed the tab design a bit from what they used on the Mini 3 Pro batteries.

DowntownRDB Posted at 7-28 12:30
The arms are a lot thinner and longer.  Also a bit of a difference in overall weight which is probably attributed to the larger camera and larger battery.  I do like that it is a rear loading battery and hopefully they changed the tab design a bit from what they used on the Mini 3 Pro batteries.

Did you see the Billy Kyle range test?    Not sure it was actually legal as he said,  but you might know the rules on the salt flats better.  

DAFlys Posted at 7-28 23:42
Did you see the Billy Kyle range test?    Not sure it was actually legal as he said,  but you might know the rules on the salt flats better.

Very impressive range test.  Totally illegal as per the FAA rules but I don't think Billy cares about a fine.

DowntownRDB Posted at 7-29 02:46
Very impressive range test.  Totally illegal as per the FAA rules but I don't think Billy cares about a fine.

So the comment about the salt flats making it legal wasn’t true then.  I seem to recall the observers are supposed to be physically with the pilot too.  

DAFlys Posted at 7-29 03:43
So the comment about the salt flats making it legal wasn’t true then.  I seem to recall the observers are supposed to be physically with the pilot too.

That is why it was illegal. The spotter must be next to the pilot.  The use of radios to communicate from spotter to pilot are prohibited.  

There was actually NOTHING there for the drone to crash into, so FAA, stay calm.

DowntownRDB Posted at 7-29 04:30
That is why it was illegal. The spotter must be next to the pilot.  The use of radios to communicate from spotter to pilot are prohibited.

Not at all. He had VOs following and watching. Straight from the FAa -
5.9.2 VO. The use of a VO is optional. The remote PIC may choose to use a VO to supplement
situational awareness and VLOS. Although the remote PIC and person manipulating the
controls must maintain the capability to see the small unmanned aircraft, using one or
more VOs allows the remote PIC and person manipulating the controls to conduct other
mission-critical duties (such as checking displays) while still ensuring situational
awareness of the small unmanned aircraft. The VO must be able to communicate
effectively with regard to the following:
• The small unmanned aircraft location, attitude, altitude, and direction of flight;
• The position of other aircraft or hazards in the airspace; and
• The determination that the small unmanned aircraft does not endanger the life or
property of another (§ 107.33).
5.9.2.1 To ensure the VO can carry out their duties, the remote PIC must ensure the
VO is positioned in a location where the VO is able to see the small
unmanned aircraft sufficiently to maintain VLOS. The remote PIC can do this
by specifying the location of the VO. The FAA also requires the remote PIC
and VO coordinate to (1) scan the airspace where the small unmanned aircraft
is operating for any potential collision hazard, and (2) maintain awareness of
the position of the small unmanned aircraft through direct visual observation
(§ 107.33). The remote PIC and VO would accomplish this by the VO
communicating to the remote PIC and person manipulating the controls the
2/1/21 AC 107-2A
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flight status of the small unmanned aircraft and any collision hazards which
may enter the area of operation, so that the remote PIC or person manipulating
the controls can take appropriate action. The VO’s visual observation of the
small unmanned aircraft and surrounding airspace would enable the VO to
inform the remote PIC of the status.
5.9.2.2 To make this communication possible, the remote PIC, person manipulating
the controls, and VO must work out a method of effective communication that
does not create a distraction. Such a means of communication entails the
constant ability to understand one another. The communication method must
be determined prior to operation. Effective communication would permit the
use of communication-assisting devices, such as a handheld radio, to facilitate
communication from a distance.

DowntownRDB Posted at 7-29 04:30
That is why it was illegal. The spotter must be next to the pilot.  The use of radios to communicate from spotter to pilot are prohibited.

That is the rule in Europe EASA, but not sure it’s the same in the US. In Europe you can also apply for SOP as a licensed pilot to carry out similar. I would be surprised they allow this to happen in the US for 107 pilots without some kind of SOP and risk assessment from and to the pilot.
It was pretty safe though "I think"

AsturianCetorix Posted at 7-29 07:02
There was actually NOTHING there for the drone to crash into, so FAA, stay calm.

But there could have been something out there,     or something could have flown in.  

DAFlys Posted at 7-30 05:55
But there could have been something out there,     or something could have flown in.

Yeah I get the point of FAA "security first always", but a car was following the drone, they were talking with the pilot, flying in the middle of nowhere... the risks were as close to 0 as they could be.

AsturianCetorix Posted at 7-30 08:04
Yeah I get the point of FAA "security first always", but a car was following the drone, they were talking with the pilot, flying in the middle of nowhere... the risks were as close to 0 as they could be.

The phone signal kept dropping and he was using a Mavic 3 to vlos the drone.   A lot to go wrong.

Isn’t it more interesting talking about the range rather than banging on about if it was legal or not.

Bigplumbs Posted at 8-1 21:59
Isn’t it more interesting talking about the range rather than banging on about if it was legal or not.

You can probably put it down to being jealous that they can get away with that.  

He has been busy!

Montfrooij Posted at 8-25 12:00
He has been busy!

I think there was also a 51 things too.

DAFlys Posted at 8-26 00:39
I think there was also a 51 things too.

Hahahahahahahahahaha. No doubt about that.
xxx things to know before buying too I guess.

DAFlys Posted at 8-26 00:39
I think there was also a 51 things too.

I wish I knew this before buying.
Why I'm glad I took the plunge.
Why I'm glad I did not buy.
To keep or not to keep the xxx now that I have the A3...