Merry Christmas all

Not been on the forums for a while as I lost my Air 2S to a critical battery failure, but just got an AIr 3S and took it for the first test flight yesterday. Generally loving the newer features, especially the free pano, but I seeme to have a strange issue and wondered if anyone else had experienced it or knows what might be causing it.

I took a few sets of AEB's, some at 12MP and some at 50MP. The 12MP versions come out as expected - with visually evident stops etc - but the 50MP versions have no visually evident stops in them for either the JPG or DNG versions. The EXIF data shows that stops are present but they aren't displayed in either Camera RAW, Lightroom or Photoshop for the 50MP files.

Does the 50MP support AEB or am I missing something fairly basic as I never had this issue in the Air 2S?

Thanks in advance

Maybe try a few more tests,    sometimes DJI drones misbehave with the camera settings,  or forget them all together,       And dont forget each shooting mode normally needs the settings set for them.  

DAFlys Posted at 12-25 02:58
Maybe try a few more tests,    sometimes DJI drones misbehave with the camera settings,  or forget them all together,       And dont forget each shooting mode normally needs the settings set for them.

Thanks mate - I'm sure it's something I'm missing, but just wondered if anyone had experienced the same thing.

Merry Christmas

Red Zeppelin Posted at 12-25 04:48
Thanks mate - I'm sure it's something I'm missing, but just wondered if anyone had experienced the same thing.

Merry Christmas

Id do a test with the drone on a table, you dont need to be flying.   I doubt your doing it wrong to be honest.

DAFlys Posted at 12-25 04:50
Id do a test with the drone on a table, you dont need to be flying.   I doubt your doing it wrong to be honest.

Tried your suggestion thanks, but even more confused now

Lined up a few coloured objects, set to Pro / Manual and altered the exposure a little, then took 3 sets - 2 @ 50MP and 1 @ 12MP - the first set of 50MP had the visual steps I'd expect to see, but the second didn't and all looked the same, despite the EXIF again showing stops for all of them. 12MP was fine again.

Maybe I'll just stick to 12MP for AEB as I don't want to risk coming home from a shoot only for all the 50MP to look the same, but it's a shame because something obviously isn't right and I'd like to be able to utilise the 50MP.

Thanks for the feedback on Christmas Day anyway  

Red Zeppelin Posted at 12-25 06:50
Tried your suggestion thanks, but even more confused now

Lined up a few coloured objects, set to Pro / Manual and altered the exposure a little, then took 3 sets - 2 @ 50MP and 1 @ 12MP - the first set of 50MP had the visual steps I'd expect to see, but the second didn't and all looked the same, despite the EXIF again showing stops for all of them. 12MP was fine again.

They do say the 12mp are better quality as they are not using the pixel binning quad bayer sensor stuff.

DAFlys Posted at 12-25 07:45
They do say the 12mp are better quality as they are not using the pixel binning quad bayer sensor stuff.

Yes, I was just curious about the 50MP as Jake Sloan did an Air 3 vs Air 3S comparison video and seemed to think the 50MP on the S worked better than the comparative setting on the original 3.

Having edited some of the 12MP, I'm more than happy with them. Just seemed a bit strange that the 50MP was so hit and miss with AEB, but I've not been able to find anyone else having the same problem as yet so I'll keep testing

Hi there, thank you for sharing your inquiry for the Air 3S. For models that cannot save HDR footage, the single HDR stitched photo and AEB footage can be viewed in “100MEDIA” of the aircraft or the microSD card. The shot photo will be marked based on the photo illustration corresponding to the “Camera Settings”, as shown below. The left is the final photo shot in AEB mode, and the right is a stitched photo shot in HDR mode.

Tap the corresponding photo to see more details:
The top-left corner of the AEB will be noted with “AEB (X photos)”.

Besides that, you may check the footage photos shot in AEB mode on a computer. You can see that the Tags are “aeb” in Properties > Details. The Tags for an HDR stitched photo are “hdr”.

I hope this information is helpful. We are always happy to help. Thank you.

Hi there, thank you for sharing your inquiry for the Air 3S. For models that cannot save HDR footage, the single HDR stitched photo and AEB footage can be viewed in “100MEDIA” of the aircraft or the microSD card. The shot photo will be marked based on the photo illustration corresponding to the “Camera Settings”, as shown below. The left is the final photo shot in AEB mode, and the right is a stitched photo shot in HDR mode.

Tap the corresponding photo to see more details:
The top-left corner of the AEB will be noted with “AEB (X photos)”.

Besides that, you may check the footage photos shot in AEB mode on a computer. You can see that the Tags are “aeb” in Properties > Details. The Tags for an HDR stitched photo are “hdr”.

I hope this information is helpful. We are always happy to help. Thank you.

DJI Natalia Posted at 12-31 01:45
Hi there, thank you for sharing your inquiry for the Air 3S. For models that cannot save HDR footage, the single HDR stitched photo and AEB footage can be viewed in “100MEDIA” of the aircraft or the microSD card. The shot photo will be marked based on the photo illustration corresponding to the “Camera Settings”, as shown below. The left is the final photo shot in AEB mode, and the right is a stitched photo shot in HDR mode.

Tap the corresponding photo to see more details:

Hi. Thank you for the reply. I'm aware of all of this as I've been shooting AEB on DJI drones for 5 years now. My issue with the Air 3S is as described - at 50MP setting, the AEB stops are often not being applied to the images even though the EXIF data for the set shows stops as being present.

When shooting at 12MP, the stops can be seen as expected, but at 50MP they more often than not are not applying.

Thanks,

RZ

Screenshots attached showing stops in the EXIF data, but no visible stops applied to the 50 MP images.

I can't seem to upload the other two images showing EXIF data - they're cropping in for some reason - but they show the + and - exposures in the set of 3.

Last of the set hopefully.

And finally, compared with the 12MP versions.

Red Zeppelin Posted at 2024-12-31 02:24
And finally, compared with the 12MP versions.

Hi RZ,

I read your post and thought I'd go check what I have on file. I have a set of 5xAEB using the 70mm lens at 48/50mp resolution, and I DO have stepped exposure images to match. These were taken on 03/12/2024 before the last firmware upgrade. I'll have a further search and see if I have anything taken in AEB mode since updating the firmware and come back to you again. [edit] yep, set of 3xAEB with corresponding exposure steps, dated 14/12/2024, 70mm lens, 48/50mp setting.

R3SKT Posted at 1-2 03:51
Hi RZ,

I read your post and thought I'd go check what I have on file. I have a set of 5xAEB using the 70mm lens at 48/50mp resolution, and I DO have stepped exposure images to match. These were taken on 03/12/2024 before the last firmware upgrade. I'll have a further search and see if I have anything taken in AEB mode since updating the firmware and come back to you again. [edit] yep, set of 3xAEB with corresponding exposure steps, dated 14/12/2024, 70mm lens, 48/50mp setting.

Hi R3SKT,

Thanks for taking the time to check this for me. The only difference I see is that while your AEB's were taken with the 70mm, mine were using the 24mm. Next time I get chance to fly, I'll try with the 70mm.

Thanks again

Red Zeppelin Posted at 1-2 09:02
Hi R3SKT,

Thanks for taking the time to check this for me. The only difference I see is that while your AEB's were taken with the 70mm, mine were using the 24mm. Next time I get chance to fly, I'll try with the 70mm.

Gone back a bit further, I have a set of 3xAEB exposures, 24mm lens, 50mp setting, and they are correctly stepped as expected. Here's a link to my Dropbox account. I've placed a zip file with the 3 .dng files for you to see. Excuse the subject, this was my first night flight with the Air3S and it was all a bit rushed.
https://www.dropbox.com/t/MmiQ7s06fgdComfs

R3SKT Posted at 1-2 09:31
Gone back a bit further, I have a set of 3xAEB exposures, 24mm lens, 50mp setting, and they are correctly stepped as expected. Here's a link to my Dropbox account. I've placed a zip file with the 3 .dng files for you to see. Excuse the subject, this was my first night flight with the Air3S and it was all a bit rushed.
https://www.dropbox.com/t/MmiQ7s06fgdComfs

Thanks for those. Even more confused now

The EXIF on your samples go 0 step, -3 step, -2 step, whereas mine go 0 step, -0.7 step, +0.7 step??

Am I missing something in the settings? As far as I'm aware, only the number of frames (3 or 5) can be set for AEB, not exposure bias? Unless you were using a filter maybe?

All of that said, my 12MP examples also only have 0 step, -0.7 step, +0.7 step but they do show the steps visibly while the 50MP does not.

Thanks again

Red Zeppelin Posted at 1-2 09:02
Hi R3SKT,

Thanks for taking the time to check this for me. The only difference I see is that while your AEB's were taken with the 70mm, mine were using the 24mm. Next time I get chance to fly, I'll try with the 70mm.

Other difference is A3 vs A3S.

Greg Parker Posted at 1-2 10:18
Other difference is A3 vs A3S.

R3SKT's icon under his handle shows an Air 3S too? My 3S icon is yet to show for some reason, but that's what I'm flying so I assume the comparisons are valid.

Camera model in the EXIF data of his file's is also the same as mine.

Red Zeppelin Posted at 1-2 10:58
R3SKT's icon under his handle shows an Air 3S too? My 3S icon is yet to show for some reason, but that's what I'm flying so I assume the comparisons are valid.

Camera model in the EXIF data of his file's is also the same as mine.

Definitely Air3S, no filter used, no adjustments to exposure bias, settings virtually as "out of the box"

R3SKT Posted at 1-3 00:44
Definitely Air3S, no filter used, no adjustments to exposure bias, settings virtually as "out of the box"

Thanks for confirming. I can only imagine the exposure bias is automatic and the variation is down to your shots being at night and mine being a fairly bright middle of the day. The Air 2s just did it automatically, but then I guess it didn't have the high res option.

I'll keep testing when I get time, but hopefully something will change otherwise I'll just stick with 12MP AEB's.

Red Zeppelin Posted at 1-3 02:26
Thanks for confirming. I can only imagine the exposure bias is automatic and the variation is down to your shots being at night and mine being a fairly bright middle of the day. The Air 2s just did it automatically, but then I guess it didn't have the high res option.

I'll keep testing when I get time, but hopefully something will change otherwise I'll just stick with 12MP AEB's.

I am very much still in the "trying everything out" camp to see what gives the best results. Took a 50mp/24mm single shot the other day, really impressed with how little colour noise there was, overall detail was pretty impressive given the craft is 50metres up, looking down whilst hovering and using a lens that you'd find in an iPhone.

R3SKT Posted at 1-3 05:00
I am very much still in the "trying everything out" camp to see what gives the best results. Took a 50mp/24mm single shot the other day, really impressed with how little colour noise there was, overall detail was pretty impressive given the craft is 50metres up, looking down whilst hovering and using a lens that you'd find in an iPhone.

I was always delighted with the 20MP Air 2S shots - even long exposures of 3 - 4 seconds - as they had no pixel manipulation going on, so I was a bit sceptical of the 50MP on the 3S but I guess time will tell.

With 50MP AEB currently not an option for me for whatever reason, I guess I'll just try manually adjusting the exposure for a few shots. I'll be interested to see how they compare to the true 20MP of the 2S, but my upgrade was forced so I'll have to work with it either way.

That said, I am enjoying the functionality upgrades, longer flight times and quieter operation and if the UK weather ever clears, I might be able to get my second flight done