Is there still no option to turn off VPS on the Phantom 4?

I like being able to fly low by the water (5 ft), but I can't trust the P4 with VPS enabled.

This is a major design flaw on the part of DJI and it really needs to be addressed.

No, it is not a major design flaw, and trying to over-emphasize the issue will not get you any faster attention.

Flying at 3-5 feet across water is a risky manouvre for any airacraft, VPS or not.

Geebax Posted at 2016-6-5 18:00
No, it is not a major design flaw, and trying to over-emphasize the issue will not get you any faste ...

That's totally safe with VPS disabled, but there's no way to disable it.

Major design flaw.

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dmleiter@gmail. Posted at 2016-6-6 09:02
That's totally safe with VPS disabled, but there's no way to disable it.

Major design flaw.

No, it is not safe at all, the aircraft them relies solely on the barometer, and that can be out by up to 10 feet at any given timre.

Geebax Posted at 2016-6-6 07:51
No, it is not safe at all, the aircraft them relies solely on the barometer, and that can be out b ...

Correct, even without VPS skimming across the water at a few feet it can easily drop just a tad and touch the water then you just ruined your aircraft.
DJI will not even look at water damaged aircraft, so if you ever did get it wet, there's no warranty and you have to repair it yourself or find a dealer that may do it for you.

Geebax Posted at 2016-6-6 07:51
No, it is not safe at all, the aircraft them relies solely on the barometer, and that can be out b ...

Correct ! ! !

Geebax Posted at 2016-6-5 18:51
No, it is not safe at all, the aircraft them relies solely on the barometer, and that can be out b ...

Apart from VPS or something, your aircraft is not going to randomly drop 10 feet. If it does, then that's also a major design flaw that should be fixed by DJI.

DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-6-5 19:09
Correct, even without VPS skimming across the water at a few feet it can easily drop just a tad an ...

I've been flying Phantoms all over the world for years without any crashes. I know how they work.

With VPS disabled, it is not an issue to fly low over water as long as you're careful. I've done it hundreds of times. Never had an issue of any kind.

The problem is that there is no way to disable VPS on the Phantom 4, so it is DEFINITELY an issue with the Phantom 4.

How hard is it for DJI to add an option in the app that lets you disable VPS, like on the P3?

Well, I am a professional and registered pilot and what is dangerous is having the phantom drifting with the current in gps mode because of VPS. Flying above water is actually not dangerous at all, quite the opposite, worse case scenario you lose your craft and you move on. Flying above people or roads IS dangerous. I use the p3 or the inspire for all the river shots of properties because the p4 is unusable in the current configuration.
Just asking very nicely, please look into it, the P4 is fantastic, the camera is a great improvement but VPS over water is a no go for me. Otherwise, VPS is actually awesome and it is rock solid over land.
Again I am a huge fan of the P4 I just think you can make it even better with the ability to turn VPS off.

It may not be ideal, but if you put some tape on the VPS sensors, voilá... same effect as deactivating them. There was a guy on youtube doing some test and it works, even though I won't be the one doing it

I know VPS won't work above water surface. But does it somehow interfere with the plane, like giving false information?

And BTW.. if you blind the VPS sensors and crashed the plane due to some other unrelated malfunction,  DJI won't cover it.  

cayalag Posted at 2016-6-6 07:00
It may not be ideal, but if you put some tape on the VPS sensors, voilá... same effect as deactivat ...

Not a good idea my friend. There are a lot of things going on down there.

Get an Osmo then buy a speed boat, same as flying low over water, might set you back about 20k though

Geebax Posted at 2016-6-5 19:00
No, it is not a major design flaw, and trying to over-emphasize the issue will not get you any faste ...

Flying low over water with VPS is 10x riskier than flying one without the feature. VPS can and will take over that low and either a. You lose throttle control b. If there is ANYTHING wrong at all with the VPS, such as the system doesnt read the altitude correctly(big problem), theres dirt/debris in the ultrasonic sensors/cameras, or any number of things, the probability that something can happen in that situation is huge, given the VPS's unpredictability, ESPECIALLY in the above described situations. I dont fly indoors. I dont need VPS. They should at least give us the option to shut it off like on the Phantom 3. I absolutely cant stand their VPS feature and wish they would give us our own choice. VPS limits the shots I can get outdoors. Why wouldnt they allow strictly outdoor flyers the ability to turn it off, given all the problems VPS causes for outdoor situations, which is one thing DJI acknowledges themselves. There are several limitations in low altitude flying outdoors with VPS. Thats a fact. The fact we cant turn it off is ridiculous, when it can be for the P3. Just ridiculous.

DJI-Ken could you please pass this on to DJI?

We really need an option in the app that lets you disable VPS, like on the P3.

Hi new to the p3p after flying the p fc40 for a year, i never fly indors and never plan to. Had the error message vps sensor fault land as soon as possible, never had it since thank goodness, was flying about 20ft above a dissused railway line at the time. Question i have is there any reason for me to have the vps turned on at all ?

wingover2016@ou Posted at 2016-6-6 11:52
Hi new to the p3p after flying the p fc40 for a year, i never fly indors and never plan to. Had the  ...

That's correct, unless you fly indoors there's no reason for you to have VPS enabled. That's why we're asking DJI for an option to turn it off, like on the P3.

Yes, please provide the option to disable VPS in the GO app.

DJI-Ken can we please get this relayed to DJI so they can add it back to the app?

I am waiting for 333, but definitely add my vote for adding this option, even when using another app. i.e. first turn in off in DJI, then it remains off after closing DJI and using another app.

Thanks,

Unfortunately, DJI-Ken has just commented that the development team has no plans of adding VPS On/Off option in DJI Go for Phantom 4 right now. Very disappointing. Here's a link to the latest thread as of 6/21/16: http://forum.dji.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=54759&page=2#pid429732

try propeller guards...it will disable obstacle sensing system. not sure if this is VPS?