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Yeah saw that on breakdown video while back. That's where all the flight data is kept (the dat files you dl from assistant). I would probably delete those before sold my mavic to someone else, just the dat on flights made, keep any other files. It's probably the best way for dji to do this, fast storage with the least amount of real estate.

Not sure on the usb port. Maybe something used in testing during construction.
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TrollsSlayer Posted at 2017-5-18 08:18
Man what a 'Great Catch'! Good Job!

I've been reading up on some very vague information that does make some sense as far as the SD card
storing .Dat files , The thing that doesn't make sense is that DJI is using a SD card ???? it is also connected
to the Flight Controller Board ????   
Pretty bad design if they have to glue in an SD card , I've never seen anything like this in my life and I have seen some pretty wild stuff you cant even imagine !!!

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thehippoz Posted at 2017-5-18 08:24
Yeah saw that on breakdown video while back. That's where all the flight data is kept (the dat files you dl from assistant). I would probably delete those before sold my mavic to someone else, just the dat on flights made, keep any other files. It's probably the best way for dji to do this, fast storage with the least amount of real estate.

Not sure on the usb port. Maybe something used in testing during construction.

Not sure on the usb port. Maybe something used in testing during construction
The USB port I can Understand
But an SD card Glued into a circuit ???????
These SD cards are produced in the Ca-billion-zillion at a time No Checking if there good or not
and the life expectance is nill  you can land softly and it can still have a problem
Don't forget about it making contact with a Static Charge
Hippoz , you seen this in electronic circuitry B4 ?????
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SkunkWerxs Posted at 2017-5-18 08:38
Not sure on the usb port. Maybe something used in testing during construction
The USB port I can Understand
But an SD card Glued into a circuit ???????

Well have to look at it economically. The sd card nowdays is mass produced. They probably factored weight and most importantly price. They could have put in a spring socket for it .
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thehippoz Posted at 2017-5-18 08:48
Well have to look at it economically. The sd card nowdays is mass produced. They probably factored weight and most importantly price. They could have put in a spring socket for it .

Well that's what I was trying to get at -- But I just wanted to see if you have ever came across any thing
like this ?
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thehippoz Posted at 2017-5-18 08:48
Well have to look at it economically. The sd card nowdays is mass produced. They probably factored weight and most importantly price. They could have put in a spring socket for it .

This is a $1200.00 System not a $200 toy
I expected a little more but never this
Goes to show -- NEVER JUDGE A BOOK BY THE COVER
This is why I'm ripping it apart  
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The glued-in SD card is common to DJI flight controllers. If you take the Inspire LightBridge to pieces you will find the same thing there.

I suspect using a dab of silicon on the SD card is probably a wise precaution as it eliminates any posibility of disruption especially in the event of a hard landing or other impact
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TrollsSlayer Posted at 2017-5-18 08:52
That is why I never give up information, store information, sync or relay information or use the cloud.
Once the AC land, I download the info and delete everything. Computers, I take out the hard drive, chips, and then discard them.

Wahahahah And I thought I was to excessive protecting my info loll
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DarrenE Posted at 2017-5-18 09:17
The glued-in SD card is common to DJI flight controllers. If you take the Inspire LightBridge to pieces you will find the same thing there.

I suspect using a dab of silicon on the SD card is probably a wise precaution as it eliminates any posibility of disruption especially in the event of a hard landing or other impact

Might as will let you know the Phantom also has the same thing but it is put in place with a metal clip
The Mavic on the other hand from what I see , it's just placed on top of it's position silicon is then applied
the Shielding can is then snapped in placed on top of it ????
My question was, what is it being used for ??? and why an SD card if you have any other info on it ??
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TrollsSlayer Posted at 2017-5-18 09:31
Don't get me started. My wife worked at the VA hospital when she was doing her rotation and then after 15 years she got a letter saying: hey, sorry but someone took a hard drive that had all the doctors information including SS#
Here a code so you check your credit report for free to see if your identity got stolen??? Sorry for the inconvenience!

That's Nothing to Joke about or in any way FUNNY AT ALL !!!!!!!
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It's recording flight data (which is why it's plugged into the flight controller), also stores various files and data as already mentioned here. Pull it out and have a look with a sd reader. Also plug in the usb and you can see some more stuff.

An SD card makes perfect sense, cheap, reliable, fast transfer, high capacity, standard communication protocols.

It could all be compressed into a SoC but the costs would be significant, why build something again when existing technology works very well. Also allows flight data to be retrieved easily even if the rest of the electronics are fried, just take the card out of a dead mavic and read the data.

Not easy to extract and read an eeprom data, they can also be easily fired / corrupted if there's a problem on their host circuits.

Not sure where you got you're reliability information about SD cards, sure they'll out last many of the other components on a mavic.

Get the feeling DJI engineers know what they are doing, they've been doing it a while
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SkunkWerxs Posted at 2017-5-18 09:05
This is a $1200.00 System not a $200 toy
I expected a little more but never this
Goes to show -- NEVER JUDGE A BOOK BY THE COVER

Ah have someone coming by, were going to go eat and fly today.

I use a pickit 3 to program, and in eagle when designing, I use digikey to locate parts. Picking parts you can always go with obsolete reels and get a big discount. But now your design has a end of life when you run out of that reel. Have to design a new board. I'm sure the board designers had a reason to use a micro sd like that. The glue as posted was probably to hold it in place during a crash. Spring loaded wouldn't work in that case. End of the day it works!
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Dear moderators,

I understand you have to moderate.
But with so many "Tip: the author has been banned or deleted automatically shield" this topic is pretty useless and totally unreadble.




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Mcflying Posted at 2017-5-18 12:39
Dear moderators,

I understand you have to moderate.

I tend to agree. At least leave the useful posts for us to read.
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Aye, RIP skunkworx and dronist. Matt WIN! lol
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thehippoz Posted at 2017-5-18 15:46
Aye, RIP skunkworx and dronist. Matt WIN! lol

Can't believe SkunkWerks got banned, he was just caught up in the crossfire and he was very helpful round here...
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Ah they'll be back. My sisters the same way, she can make you believe the sky is purple. Just psychos man, and they get away with everything.
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thehippoz Posted at 2017-5-18 16:21
Ah they'll be back. My sisters the same way, she can make you believe the sky is purple. Just psychos man, and they get away with everything.

? Is it not purple, I don't wanna know.....
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thehippoz Posted at 2017-5-18 16:21
Ah they'll be back. My sisters the same way, she can make you believe the sky is purple. Just psychos man, and they get away with everything.

Couple of questions,

How someone get banned if they are contributing to the forum?

How do you add the mavic icon to avatar?

Thank you.
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Contribute all you like, it doesnt give you immunity from being banned for being a deckhead.

About time some of these clowns had a break anyway.

It gets a bit tiring listening to the same bunch trying to brown nose DJI forums.

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What did just happened!?

Regarding a glued SD card I see no problem. As many people pointed out this before, why use a more expensive and probably less reliable system when you have something out there in the market that is already working. What I mean is that, in engineering we learn that in simplicity is where the beauty lays. And simplicity is not synonymous of cheap.

Cheers!

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FlyingSmasher Posted at 2017-5-18 16:44
Couple of questions,

How someone get banned if they are contributing to the forum?

You can get banned for a lot of reasons
Just read this post http://forum.dji.com/thread-71515-1-1.html and then you are safe.

Regarding the avatar/personal icon.
Top right - click on personal homepage
On the personal homepage on the left click on Settings

And just upload yours.
ONLY somehow this doesn't work on firefox, but with chrome it should work.
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FlyingSmasher Posted at 2017-5-18 16:44
Couple of questions,

How someone get banned if they are contributing to the forum?

To add the Mavic Icon and the flight-distance, you need to own the drone and sync your flight-records via the DJI Go App. Just tab on the "arrow with the abstract compass" near the "Go Fly"-Button and then sync your records by pressing the cloud-icon in the upper right corner. This is how it works on android, iOs maybe a little bit different :-)
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patman89 Posted at 2017-5-19 01:06
To add the Mavic Icon and the flight-distance, you need to own the drone and sync your flight-records via the DJI Go App. Just tab on the "arrow with the abstract compass" near the "Go Fly"-Button and then sync your records by pressing the cloud-icon in the upper right corner. This is how it works on android, iOs maybe a little bit different :-)

Thank you.
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Mcflying Posted at 2017-5-19 00:55
You can get banned for a lot of reasons
Just read this post http://forum.dji.com/thread-71515-1-1.html and then you are safe.

Thank you.
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If you want to read what someone wrote after they are banned, simply log in from mobile.  Mobile can still see all the banned comments.

ALSO - they will be unbanned.  DJI generally does a temporary ban to allow people to "cool off".  

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hallmark007 Posted at 2017-5-18 16:11
Can't believe SkunkWerks got banned, he was just caught up in the crossfire and he was very helpful round here...

I agree.  That seems to happen too often to the wrong people ;-)
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Why was Skunk banned? Im sure it had nothing to do with him bringing attention to the use of unreliable hardware in DJI products!
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Fractures Posted at 2017-5-19 05:39
Why was Skunk banned? Im sure it had nothing to do with him bringing attention to the use of unreliable hardware in DJI products!

If we're back on topic, what unreliable hardware is that? SD cards? Never had a problem, expected life 10-15 years.
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Matt-and-Riley Posted at 2017-5-19 05:47
If we're back on topic, what unreliable hardware is that? SD cards? Never had a problem, expected life 10-15 years.

Skunks point, before it was deleted, was that they are unreliably produced (produced in masses and no quality control) and have the habit of failing after a short period of time ( way before the 10 year life expectancy).

Skunk also seems to have some experience with electrical components and how they work in detail. I myself, like you I would assume, am not an expert on SD cards, their reliability, or how they are manufactured and unfortunately the man who seemed to have some knowledge was banned for sharing it, or so it appears.

Whether they are reliable or not I fail to see how its justifiable to ban someone for sharing the information.. assuming thats what he was banned for.. idk.. which is why I asked.
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Fractures Posted at 2017-5-19 09:47
Skunks point, before it was deleted, was that they are unreliably produced (produced in masses and no quality control) and have the habit of failing after a short period of time ( way before the 10 year life expectancy).

Skunk also seems to have some experience with electrical components and how they work in detail. I myself, like you I would assume, am not an expert on SD cards, their reliability, or how they are manufactured and unfortunately the man who seemed to have some knowledge was banned for sharing it, or so it appears.

Thanks, I can understand questioning the source of these cards, and are they good ones or not. Very valid point, and something I will take on board.

Assumptions and seems can be misleading

So the question is not about "Why is there a SD card?", the question is "Is it any good?"

Your second assumption is flawed. I think it was the red-dots and curry comments, maybe the pedo jokes, maybe posting real troll posts in 15 of my topics, the list went on...

Edit - are there reports coming out of the internal card failing?
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AACY Posted at 2017-5-18 20:22
What did just happened!?

Regarding a glued SD card I see no problem. As many people pointed out this before, why use a more expensive and probably less reliable system when you have something out there in the market that is already working. What I mean is that, in engineering we learn that in simplicity is where the beauty lays. And simplicity is not synonymous of cheap.

Also it's more tamper resistant :-)
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